From BHReach at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 18:53:32 2008 From: BHReach at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Fri Apr 4 18:53:54 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] New user questions and comments. Message-ID: <2092.47f65d0b@forums.frugalware.org> I installed Frugalware 0.8 X86_64. So far I only noticed 1 problem. My mobo requires a 'cheatcode' kernel option to boot (pci=nomsi) to compensate for a kernel bug (supposed to be fixed in the latest kernel). I added it to get the install DVD to boot. After installation, my system would not boot because Frugalware did not include pci=nomsi in the grub.conf file. I had to boot from a live CD and add it manually. The 1st thing I noticed is how fast Frugalware is. I had been testing Suse 10.3 and FW is noticeably faster. I prefer to use icewm as my desktop, FW does not have a menu set up for icewm. I suggest adding a program called menumaker (http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/) to your repository. It is a Python program that automatically creates a menu for the following desktops: BlackBox Deskmenu FluxBox IceWM OpenBox, version 3 PekWM WindowMaker XFCE, version 4 It searches your disk for installed applications to create the menu. It has over 600 Linux applications that it searches for. I wanted to test virtualbox and vmware but they are not available for X86_64. I will probably have to settle for the 32 bit platform until X86_64 catches up. There is a 64 bit vmware available but not in your repository. Also, it appears you only have vmware workstation (expensive), vmware server is free, it's beta but seems to work OK. (http://www.vmware.com/products/server/). Is there a list of applications available for X86 that are not available for X86_64? Bill From crazy at frugalware.org Fri Apr 4 19:13:14 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Fri Apr 4 19:13:38 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] New user questions and comments. In-Reply-To: <2092.47f65d0b@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2092.47f65d0b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47F661AA.5020802@frugalware.org> Bill wrote: > > I installed Frugalware 0.8 X86_64. > > So far I only noticed 1 problem. My mobo requires a 'cheatcode' kernel option to boot (pci=nomsi) to compensate for a kernel bug (supposed to be fixed in the latest kernel). I added it to get the install DVD to boot. After installation, my system would not boot because Frugalware did not include pci=nomsi in the grub.conf file. I had to boot from a live CD and add it manually. > > The 1st thing I noticed is how fast Frugalware is. I had been testing Suse 10.3 and FW is noticeably faster. > > I prefer to use icewm as my desktop, FW does not have a menu set up for icewm. I suggest adding a program called menumaker (http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/) to your repository. It is a Python program that automatically creates a menu for the following desktops: > > BlackBox > Deskmenu > FluxBox > IceWM > OpenBox, version 3 > PekWM > WindowMaker > XFCE, version 4 > > It searches your disk for installed applications to create the menu. It has over 600 Linux applications that it searches for. It is already : .... pacman -Si menumaker Repository : frugalware-current Name : menumaker Version : 0.99.7-1 Groups : x11-extra .... > > I wanted to test virtualbox and vmware but they are not available for X86_64. I will probably have to settle for the 32 bit platform until X86_64 catches up. There is a 64 bit vmware available but not in your repository. Also, it appears you only have vmware workstation (expensive), vmware server is free, it's beta but seems to work OK. (http://www.vmware.com/products/server/). Well 64bit porters didn't ported vbox to 64bit yet. About vmware you are wrong _nothing_ is free , you are not even allowed to host the source of that_so_called_free thing. Also you are not allowed to redistribute that since you'll need to register to get that source ( just read vmware license ). We have an so called 'nobuild' package for vmware which may or may not work. > > Is there a list of applications available for X86 that are not available for X86_64? Yes you can see that in our daily testsuite. There the one from today -> http://frugalware.org/pipermail/frugalware-devel/2008-April/004833.html > Bill crazy From BHReach at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 01:02:38 2008 From: BHReach at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Sat Apr 5 01:03:05 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: New user questions and comments. In-Reply-To: <47F661AA.5020802@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2094.47f6b38d@forums.frugalware.org> >>pacman -Si menumaker Repository : frugalware-current Name : menumaker Version : 0.99.7-1 Groups : x11-extra<< Thanks. >>About vmware you are wrong _nothing_ is free , you are not even allowed to host the source of that_so_called_free thing. Also you are not allowed to redistribute that since you'll need to register to get that source ( just read vmware license ). We have an so called 'nobuild' package for vmware which may or may not work.<< You may be right, I'm not a lawyer and don't fully understand those complicated EULA's. Gentoo does not distribute it but downloads the file directly from vmware servers when you want to install it. Here is a quote from their ebuild: "Unlike many other binary packages the user doesn't need to agree to a licence to download VMWare. The agreeing to a licence is part of the configure step which the user must run manually." SRC_URI="http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/${MY_P}.tar.gz You do have to register to get the free code to unlock the software. Bill From crazy at frugalware.org Sat Apr 5 03:49:18 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Sat Apr 5 03:49:41 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: New user questions and comments. In-Reply-To: <2094.47f6b38d@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2094.47f6b38d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47F6DA9E.3050500@frugalware.org> Bill wrote: > >>> pacman -Si menumaker > Repository : frugalware-current > Name : menumaker > Version : 0.99.7-1 > Groups : x11-extra<< > > Thanks. > >>> About vmware you are wrong _nothing_ is free , you are not even allowed to host the source of that_so_called_free thing. Also you are not > allowed to redistribute that since you'll need to register to get that source ( just read vmware license ). > We have an so called 'nobuild' package for vmware which may or may not work.<< > > You may be right, I'm not a lawyer and don't fully understand those complicated EULA's. Gentoo does not distribute it but downloads the file directly from vmware servers when you want to install it. > > Here is a quote from their ebuild: > > "Unlike many other binary packages the user doesn't need to agree to a licence to download VMWare. The agreeing to a licence is part of the configure step which the user must run manually." > > SRC_URI="http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/${MY_P}.tar.gz > > You do have to register to get the free code to unlock the software. That is not that true since you have to *agree* on the license before you download it. When you click on 'download some server version you are redirected before to :' http://register.vmware.com/content/eula.html eg: http://register.vmware.com/content/eula104.html for 1.0.4 when you read that you'll notice some limitations and you may notice that : ... Distributing the Software. If you are interested in distributing the Software for internal or external use, promotion, review or as part of a solution - please apply now. ... ' Click on *please apply now* and read up again ' In other words *you* as user can download it when you agree the eula and can use it *on your box only without to redistribute it* , we as distro cannot package it and while we are not a source based distro we cannot create 'live builds' so all we can do is to create an build script with a notice for the user to add the right link to whatever 'version and source he agreed on'. > Bill > crazy From carl at frugalware.dk Sun Apr 6 20:02:24 2008 From: carl at frugalware.dk (Carl Andersen) Date: Sun Apr 6 20:03:10 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: [HINT] Disable 'Beyond Adobe Reader' in acroread Message-ID: <2098.47f91030@forums.frugalware.org> Or you ca do this, it gives simmilar results start your new acroread, the go to Prefereces then click Internet and fill in: Browser Executable: /usr/bin/firefox libgtkembedmoz Folder: /usr/lib/firefox Then click OK and restart your acroread. That's it, enjoy. :) -- Carl Andersen http://www.ligustica.dk/ | http://www.frugalware.dk/ | From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 21:02:39 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Sun Apr 6 21:02:57 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] root->user Message-ID: <2099.47f91e4e@forums.frugalware.org> Hi guys, this is a dumb question :) I run FW as root but a game requires me to be a user. is there a way to switch to user without logging out as root. An inverse "su" :) Thank you in advance -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From crazy at frugalware.org Sun Apr 6 21:05:57 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Sun Apr 6 21:06:18 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] root->user In-Reply-To: <2099.47f91e4e@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2099.47f91e4e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47F91F15.8000605@frugalware.org> paparucino wrote: > > Hi guys, > this is a dumb question :) > > I run FW as root but a game requires me to be a user. is there a way to switch to user without logging out as root. > An inverse "su" :) ROFL! Do you realize how stupid it is to run a distro as root ? Probably not .. From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 21:38:08 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Sun Apr 6 21:38:29 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: root->user In-Reply-To: <47F91F15.8000605@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <209b.47f9269f@forums.frugalware.org> crazy wrote on Sun, 06 April 2008 21:05 > paparucino wrote: > > I run FW as root but a game requires me to be a user. is there a way to switch to user without logging out as root. > > An inverse "su" :) > > ROFL! Do you realize how stupid it is to run a distro as root ? Probably not .. May be you're right, but I've always run my distros as root without any problem, I've nothing which can be considered interesting for a so called hacker. Unless he likes american basebal or american football :) Well, said this, is there a way to switch root->user? -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From crazy at frugalware.org Sun Apr 6 22:03:02 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Sun Apr 6 22:03:21 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: root->user In-Reply-To: <209b.47f9269f@forums.frugalware.org> References: <209b.47f9269f@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47F92C76.7040009@frugalware.org> paparucino wrote: > > crazy wrote on Sun, 06 April 2008 21:05 >> paparucino wrote: >>> I run FW as root but a game requires me to be a user. is there a way to switch to user without logging out as root. >>> An inverse "su" :) >> ROFL! Do you realize how stupid it is to run a distro as root ? Probably not .. > > May be you're right, but I've always run my distros as root without any problem, I've nothing which can be considered interesting for a so called hacker. Unless he likes american basebal or american football :) Is not only about 'hackers' dude , you can easy kill your whole system with just one typo in some command etc.. root is not there to run DE's .. brr > > Well, said this, is there a way to switch root->user? kdesu -u user -c command , as example From BHReach at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 02:45:25 2008 From: BHReach at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Tue Apr 8 02:45:49 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: root->user In-Reply-To: <209b.47f9269f@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <209e.47fac025@forums.frugalware.org> gally wrote on Sun, 06 April 2008 15:38 > May be you're right, but I've always run my distros as root without any problem, I've nothing which can be considered interesting for a so called hacker. Unless he likes american basebal or american football :) Generally speaking hackers do not bother to compromise an individual's computer to gain access to info that is there. They want to use your computer to engage in illegal activities that you will be blamed for instead of them. Bill From vmiklos at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 11:37:28 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Tue Apr 8 11:37:29 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: root->user In-Reply-To: <209e.47fac025@forums.frugalware.org> References: <209b.47f9269f@forums.frugalware.org> <209e.47fac025@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080408093728.GL11574@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 02:45:25AM +0200, Bill wrote: > Generally speaking hackers do not bother to compromise an individual's > computer to gain access to info that is there. They want to use your > computer to engage in illegal activities that you will be blamed for > instead of them. don't confuse hackers (we are hackers as well) and crackers (see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html). also, not working as root by default is good for primarily for _you_, given that you can't corrupt your system by default, just your own files. one of my friends worked as root by default till once he deleted /var accidentally, now he works as a user.. of course you can still work as root if you can only learn from your own faults. :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What's wrong with sshfs-fuse? -- voroskoi From kind at gmx.at Tue Apr 8 15:09:44 2008 From: kind at gmx.at (Christian Sturm) Date: Tue Apr 8 15:10:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies Message-ID: <20a2.47fb6e96@forums.frugalware.org> Could someone have a look at miro? It also has a lot of GNOME deps. From voroskoi at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 15:22:34 2008 From: voroskoi at frugalware.org (VOROSKOI Andras) Date: Tue Apr 8 15:22:37 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies In-Reply-To: <20a2.47fb6e96@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20a2.47fb6e96@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080408132234.GB9633@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:09:44PM +0200, Christian Sturm wrote: > Could someone have a look at miro? > It also has a lot of GNOME deps. Use bugs.frugalware.org for reporting bugs. Also you should mention which depend should be removed and _why_. Thanks. -- voroskoi From crazy at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 15:29:46 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C.) Date: Tue Apr 8 15:30:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies Message-ID: <20a4.47fb7349@forums.frugalware.org> Quote: > It also has a lot of GNOME deps. There is no way to remove these since it does need the gnome python bindings which depends on the gnome python desktop packages which again depends on gnome libs. In other words it is a gnome app right now. From crazy at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 15:35:42 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Tue Apr 8 15:36:02 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] sshfs In-Reply-To: <20080408125214.GA9633@genesis.frugalware.org> References: <20a0.47fb69c0@forums.frugalware.org> <20080408125214.GA9633@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47FB74AE.9080006@frugalware.org> VOROSKOI Andras wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 02:49:05PM +0200, Per Borg-Hansen wrote: >> any plans of incorporating sshfs? >> (I know - can easily download/compile - but I like to have my path clean ...) > > What's wrong with sshfs-fuse? Hehe :)) sshfs-fuse _is_ sshfs :p From voroskoi at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 15:41:49 2008 From: voroskoi at frugalware.org (VOROSKOI Andras) Date: Tue Apr 8 15:41:50 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] sshfs In-Reply-To: <47FB74AE.9080006@frugalware.org> References: <20a0.47fb69c0@forums.frugalware.org> <20080408125214.GA9633@genesis.frugalware.org> <47FB74AE.9080006@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080408134148.GC9633@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:35:42PM +0200, Gabriel C wrote: > Hehe :)) sshfs-fuse _is_ sshfs :p Even better :) -- voroskoi From crazy at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 15:46:30 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Tue Apr 8 15:46:50 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] sshfs In-Reply-To: <20080408134148.GC9633@genesis.frugalware.org> References: <20a0.47fb69c0@forums.frugalware.org> <20080408125214.GA9633@genesis.frugalware.org> <47FB74AE.9080006@frugalware.org> <20080408134148.GC9633@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47FB7736.8020808@frugalware.org> VOROSKOI Andras wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:35:42PM +0200, Gabriel C wrote: >> Hehe :)) sshfs-fuse _is_ sshfs :p > > Even better :) Old sshfs was discontinued sometimes 2004 and sshfs-fuse replaced it 2005 if I remember correctly. In any case noone want old buggy one ( not to mention it was written for 2.4 kernels ) From perbh at mailshack.com Tue Apr 8 16:02:58 2008 From: perbh at mailshack.com (Per Borg-Hansen) Date: Tue Apr 8 16:03:16 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: sshfs In-Reply-To: <20a0.47fb69c0@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20a8.47fb7b12@forums.frugalware.org> oh s....! I tried $(pacman -S sshfs) and when that didn't work, I just assumed it wasn't there - without checking the repo ... Sorry for wasting all yall's time :( From kind at gmx.at Tue Apr 8 16:13:40 2008 From: kind at gmx.at (Christian Sturm) Date: Tue Apr 8 16:14:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies Message-ID: <20a9.47fb7d93@forums.frugalware.org> and their dependencies. Why is gnome-frugalware, gnome-themes, gnome-keyring, gnome-mount, ... needed? From crazy at frugalware.org Tue Apr 8 17:00:15 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Tue Apr 8 17:00:34 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies In-Reply-To: <20a9.47fb7d93@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20a9.47fb7d93@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <47FB887F.6030000@frugalware.org> Christian Sturm wrote: > > and their dependencies. > Why is gnome-frugalware, gnome-themes For the same reason any DE need some 'default' theme and icon set ( without these you can't display things correctly ) That is true for KDE , XFCE and whatever oder DE's > gnome-keyring, libgnomeui need it > gnome-mount, ... needed? not sure I think is gnome-vfs rodepend From BHReach at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 17:19:10 2008 From: BHReach at gmail.com (Bill) Date: Wed Apr 9 17:19:32 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: root->user In-Reply-To: <20080408093728.GL11574@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20ab.47fcde6c@forums.frugalware.org> vmiklos wrote on Tue, 08 April 2008 05:37 > don't confuse hackers (we are hackers as well) and crackers (see > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html). You are 100% correct! I used to make the distinction between 'cracker' and 'hacker' (black hat/white hat) but after seeing how people just ignore me and continue to us hacker incorrectly, I just gave up and went with the majority. The press and entertainment industry have made 'hacker' synonymous with 'cracker' in common usage probably because the term 'cracker' can be used as a racial slur (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cracker see etymology 2) and some people find it offensive. Quote: > also, not working as root by default is good for primarily for _you_, > given that you can't corrupt your system by default, just your own > files. one of my friends worked as root by default till once he deleted > /var accidentally, now he works as a user.. > > of course you can still work as root if you can only learn from your own > faults. :) Nothing I said was meant to endorse the use of root for normal user activities. The only time I login as root is during installation. After that I only run individual programs as root using su for command line tools and kdesu for gui applications. Running as root has the dangers you noted but is also a security risk. Linux has 2 security features. The 1st line of defense is the firewall. If you don't offer services over the Internet and use a restrictive stateful firewall, your Linux box will be very secure. I am new to Frugalware and have not checked out the default firewall yet. I have been using firehol (http://firehol.sourceforge.net/). To create a restrictive stateful firewall requires only a few lines in its config file. Also if you check out their Firewall Test page you will find links to websites that will probe your system for security holes. The 2nd line of defense is the Linux permission system. If you run your web browser as root and an intruder gains access to you system through an exploit in your browser, he will have root access and complete control of your system. If you run your browser from a user account and it is compromised, the intruder then has to 'root' your system before he gains complete control. It is also a security risk to run the X server as root because it is a network application. It is safer to launch X as an ordinary user and run gui applications as root using kdesu (or gksu) when needed. Unless your system is a high value target (like a bank computer) it will not attract the attention of a master hacker. Most systems get compromised by 'script kiddies' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie) who use automated programs that test for known exploits. BTW, this year's PWN to OWN contest at the CanSecWest security conference (http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/28/pwn-to-own-final-day-and-wrap-up) resulted Ubuntu Linux (not the most secure Linux with their ill advised unconventional use of sudo) being the only OS not compromised. Mac OSX and Vista got hacked. Bill From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Apr 9 20:41:38 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Apr 9 20:41:40 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: root->user In-Reply-To: <20ab.47fcde6c@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080408093728.GL11574@genesis.frugalware.org> <20ab.47fcde6c@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080409184138.GA11574@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 05:19:10PM +0200, Bill wrote: > I am new to Frugalware and have not checked out the default firewall > yet. I have been using firehol (http://firehol.sourceforge.net/). To > create a restrictive stateful firewall requires only a few lines in > its config file. Also if you check out their Firewall Test page you > will find links to websites that will probe your system for security > holes. the default configuration is easy: we block all incoming connections (not counting related/established ones) and allow all outgoing connections. that's a pretty good default for most servers and desktops. ok, probably you'll want to remove the # prefix from a few lines in /etc/sysconfig/firewall on servers, but that's all. if you are an expert, you can still configure whatever settings and just do an iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/firewall to load that setting on boot next time. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Went from Opensuse, BSD, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Archlinux (Like it a lot) and then heard about this brand new sweet slim Frugalware. I downloaded the first two CD's and i tried to install but everything went well perhaps i thought so, i couldn't eject the first CD to install the second one. So i decided to just go ahead and finish off the installtion with first CD itself. When I rebooted i get this Grub error. I tried like five times, did not work. I was about to give up, but i like the idea of frugalware. Please help me. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Thu Apr 10 19:16:06 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Thu Apr 10 19:16:09 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Frugalware Firsttimer...Installtion problems In-Reply-To: <20ae.47fe3a44@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20ae.47fe3a44@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080410171606.GA24141@genesis.frugalware.org> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:03:18PM +0200, Sherlock Holmes wrote: > I am a 4 weeks old linuxer convert. Went from Opensuse, BSD, > Ubuntu, Mandriva, Archlinux (Like it a lot) and then heard > about this brand new sweet slim Frugalware. I downloaded the > first two CD's and i tried to install but everything went well > perhaps i thought so, i couldn't eject the first CD to install > the second one. So i decided to just go ahead and finish off > the installtion with first CD itself. When I rebooted i get > this Grub error. I tried like five times, did not work. I was > about to give up, but i like the idea of frugalware. Please > help me. you can try to say 'no' when you are asked if you have a next cd, so that the installer will run grubconfig for you to configure it properly. of course you can still just run grubconfig manually but that's a bit more complicated. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080411/bf75b1f2/attachment.htm From music_composer at myway.com Sat Apr 12 02:36:46 2008 From: music_composer at myway.com (Darek) Date: Sat Apr 12 02:37:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Real Time Kernel Message-ID: <20b0.4800041b@forums.frugalware.org> Hi Crazy. How is rt-kernel personal investigation going? Any signs of rt-kernel heading the stable version? I took some time, checked my own system, made some notes about software I use, or know other people involved in music use, and have prepared a "dream list" of people interested in making music or sounds in linux. I checked current frugalware packages list and bug tracking system requests, so this is a list of software that is not present in current repository nor was requested to this day. I filled requests for each program, so it is official now and you can ban me for spam :) I use this forum thread, as many programs from this list need rt-kernel or at least can make a good use of it. Here you are: Csound http://csound.sourceforge.net/#Linux Csound is a sound and music synthesis system, providing facilities for composition and performance over a wide range of platforms. It is not restricted to any style of music, having been used for many years in the creation of classical, pop, techno, ambient, experimental, and (of course) computer music, as well as music for film and television. Cecilia http://www.csounds.com/cecilia/ Cecilia is a graphic user interface for the sound synthesis and sound processing package Csound. Cecilia enables the user to build very quickly graphic interfaces with sliders and curves to control Csound intruments. It is also an editor to Csound with syntax highlighting and a built-in reference. Cecilia is also a great tool to explore the parameters of a new opcode in an interactive and intuitive way. Ceres3 http://www.music.columbia.edu/~stanko/About_Ceres3.html Ceres3 is a cut-and-paste spectral editor with musically enhanced graphic control over spectral activity of a sound file FScape http://sourceforge.net/projects/fscape/ FScape is a standalone audio rendering software for time domain and spectral signal processing. Similar to SoundHack, it hosts a number of separate filter processes and has simple batch processing capabilities. It runs on any Java 1.4 equipped machine so probably it can't be in the normal repository, right?. Wanted to mention it here cause it is fine piece of experimental software. Mammut http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/doc/mammut/ Mammut will FFT your sound in one single gigantic analysis (no windows). These spectral data, where the development in time is incorporated in mysterious ways, may then be transformed by different algorithms prior to resynthesis. An interesting aspect of Mammut is its completely non-intuitive sound transformation approach. Muse http://sourceforge.net/projects/lmuse MusE is a Qt based audio/midi sequencer with editing and recording capabilities for linux. Tapestrea http://taps.cs.princeton.edu/ Unified framework for interactively analyzing, transforming and synthesizing complex sounds. Amsynth http://amsynthe.sourceforge.net/amSynth/ It provides virtual analogue synthesis in the style of the classic Moog Minimoog/Roland Junos. It offers an easy-to-use interface and synth engine, while still creating varied sounds. Aeolus http://users.skynet.be/solaris/linuxaudio/aeolus.html Aeolus is a synthesised (i.e. not sampled) pipe organ emulator that should be good enough to make an organist enjoy playing it. It is a software synthesiser optimised for this job, with possibly hundreds of controls for each stop, that enable the user to "voice" his instrument. Jack meterbridge http://plugin.org.uk/meterbridge/ It supports a number of different types of meter, rendered using the SDL library and user-editable pixmaps. Beast http://beast.gtk.org/ Beast is a powerful music composition and modular synthesis application released as free software under the GNU GPL and GNU LGPL, that runs under unix. It supports a wide range of standards in the field, such as MIDI, WAV/AIFF/MP3/OggVorbis/etc audio files and LADSPA modules. It has excellent technical abilities like multitrack editing, unlimited undo/redo support, real-time synthesis support, 32bit audio rendering, full duplex support, multiprocessor support, conditional MMX/SSE utilisation for plugins, precise timing down to sample granularity, on demand and partial loading of wave files, on the fly decoding, stereo mixing, FFT scopes, MIDI automation and full scriptability in scheme. Jack bitmeter http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/njl98r/code/audio/bitmeter/ JACK bitmeter is a diagnosis tool for JACK audio software on Linux (and perhaps other systems which have JACK and GTK+ 2.x). As its name might suggest, the bitmeter operates at the bare metal of JACK's I/O layer, looking at the 32 binary digits in each individual sample. Bristol Audio Synthesis http://sourceforge.net/projects/bristol Bristol is synth emulation package for a diverse range of vintage synthesisers, electric pianos and organs. The application consists of a multithreaded audio synthesizer and a user interface called brighton. ChucK http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ ChucK is a new (and developing) audio programming language for real-time synthesis, composition, performance, and now, analysis - fully supported on MacOS X, Windows, and Linux. CLAM http://clam.iua.upf.edu/ CLAM is a full-fledged software framework for research and application development in the Audio and Music Domain. It offers a conceptual model as well as tools for the analysis, synthesis and transformation of audio signals. Common Music http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/doc/cm.html Common Music (CM) is an object-oriented music composition environment. It produces sound by transforming a high-level representation of musical structure into a variety of control protocols for sound synthesis and display. Common Music defines an extensive library of compositional tools and an API through which the composer can easily modify and extend the system. Common Music Notation http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/cmn/ CMN (Common Music Notation) is a free western music notation package written in Common Lisp. Ecasound http://www.eca.cx/ecasound/ Ecasound is a software package designed for multitrack audio processing. It can be used for simple tasks like audio playback, recording and format conversions, as well as for multitrack effect processing, mixing, recording and signal recycling Freewheeling http://freewheeling.sourceforge.net/welcome.shtml Freewheeling allows us to build repetitive grooves by sampling and directing loops from within spirited improvisation. gAlan http://galan.sourceforge.net/ A modular synthesiser - drum-machine - sequencer - effects-unit for Linux Hexter http://dssi.sourceforge.net/hexter.html Yamaha DX7 modeling DSSI plugin WhySynth http://home.jps.net/~musound/whysynth.html WhySynth is a versatile softsynth which operates as a plugin for the Disposable Soft Synth Interface (DSSI) Jack rack http://jack-rack.sourceforge.net/ JACK Rack is an effects "rack" for the JACK low latency audio API. The rack can be filled with LADSPA effects plugins and can be controlled using the ALSA sequencer. It's phat; it turns your computer into an effects box. Jamin http://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/about.html JAMin is the JACK Audio Connection Kit (JACK) Audio Mastering interface. JAMin is an open source application designed to perform professional audio mastering of stereo input streams. It uses LADSPA for digital signal processing (DSP). Linuxsampler http://www.linuxsampler.org/ The LinuxSampler project was founded with the goal to produce a free, open source pure software audio sampler with professional grade features, comparable to both hardware and commercial Windows/Mac software samplers and to introduce new features not yet available by any other sampler in the world. Qsampler http://qsampler.sourceforge.net/qsampler-index.html QSampler is a LinuxSampler GUI front-end application written in C++ around the Qt4 toolkit using Qt Designer. Pure Data http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data The Pure Data (short Pd) project on SourceForge unifies the extensions (or externals) written for the Pure Data Graphical Computer Music System written by Miller Puckette with contributions from many others. Rezound http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/rezound ReZound aims to be a stable, open source, and graphical audio file editor primarily for but not limited to the Linux operating system. Seq24 http://www.filter24.org/seq24/download.html Seq24 is a minimal loop based midi sequencer. Snd http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ Snd is a powerful sound editor, programmable audio editing toolkit, graphic component of the Common environment of music and sound applications. Sndpeek http://soundlab.cs.princeton.edu/software/sndpeek/ Real-time audio visualization Sonic visualiser http://www.sonicvisualiser.org/index.html Sonic Visualiser is an application for viewing and analysing the contents of music audio files. SooperLooper http://www.essej.net/sooperlooper/ live looping sampler capable of immediate loop recording, overdubbing, multiplying, reversing and more. It allows for multiple simultaneous multi-channel loops limited only by your computer's available memory. The feature-set and operation was inspired by the impressive Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP). When used with a low-latency audio configuration SooperLooper is capable of truly realtime live performance looping. Specimen http://zhevny.com/specimen/index.html Specimen is an open source, MIDI controllable audio sampler for Linux. Supercollider http://sourceforge.net/projects/supercollider A real time audio synthesis programming language written by James McCartney, now (since version 3) released as free software. TerminatorX http://terminatorx.org/ Realtime audio synthesizer that allows you to "scratch" on digitally sampled audio data (*.wav, *.au, *.ogg, *.mp3, etc.) the way hiphop-DJs scratch on vinyl records. It features multiple turntables, realtime effects (buit-in as well as LADSPA plugin effects), a sequencer and MIDI interface - all accessible through an easy-to-use gtk+ GUI. ZynAddSubFX http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/ ZynAddSubFX is a opensource software synthesizer capable of making a countless number of instruments, from some common heared from expensive hardware to interesting sounds that you'll boost to an amazing universe of sounds. Qtractor http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html Audio/MIDI multi-track sequencer application written in C++ around the Qt4 toolkit. Wired http://sourceforge.net/projects/wired Music production and creation software running on the Linux operating system. It brings musicians a complete studio environment to compose and record music without requiring expensive hardware. Thx. From crazy at frugalware.org Sat Apr 12 02:49:54 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Sat Apr 12 02:50:16 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Real Time Kernel In-Reply-To: <20b0.4800041b@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20b0.4800041b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48000732.6030304@frugalware.org> Darek wrote: > > Hi Crazy. How is rt-kernel personal investigation going? I don't have any time for rt right now.. > Any signs of rt-kernel heading the stable version? I'm not sure what you mean by this , but -rt tree will never be stable. Some stuff from there is alway merged ( in a safe version for mainline from time to time , patch by patch ) but _rt_ patchset will never see mainline in his form.. > > I took some time, checked my own system, made some notes about software I use, or know other people involved in music use, and have prepared a "dream list" of people interested in making music or sounds in linux. > I checked current frugalware packages list and bug tracking system requests, so this is a list of software that is not present in current repository nor was requested to this day. > I filled requests for each program, so it is official now and you can ban me for spam :) > > I use this forum thread, as many programs from this list need rt-kernel or at least can make a good use of it. 'IF' any of this programs *need* -rt you have to add a note to BTS since these are useless for -current. > > Here you are: > Cecilia > http://www.csounds.com/cecilia/ > Cecilia is a graphic user interface for the sound synthesis and sound processing package Csound. Cecilia enables the user to build very quickly graphic interfaces with sliders and curves to control Csound intruments. It is also an editor to Csound with syntax highlighting and a built-in reference. Cecilia is also a great tool to explore the parameters of a new opcode in an interactive and intuitive way. Unmaintained , dead package ... From music_composer at myway.com Sat Apr 12 03:00:51 2008 From: music_composer at myway.com (Darek) Date: Sat Apr 12 03:01:35 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Real Time Kernel In-Reply-To: <48000732.6030304@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20b2.480009c3@forums.frugalware.org> When you started making rt-kernel you wrote: Quote: > Mon, 05 November 2007 22:23 by crazy > > The repo is actually meant for 'current' , probably after 0.8 there will be a repo for stable but now I don't have time for this sorry. So I was asking about getting from that 'current' to that 'stable'. I know RT is never going to be in official stable. I might be daydreaming, but not that much :d Thx From annals at akimine.co.jp Sat Apr 12 11:05:07 2008 From: annals at akimine.co.jp (Turcio Stoa) Date: Sat Apr 12 11:10:36 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] kittling Message-ID: <9758358536.20080412090117@akimine.co.jp> Hi, Present unforgettabble night to your belovedd one, imaggine yourrself as a Macho! http://sz5q2cnme1avm.blogspot.com Again about five to seven days coming down the (thus disciplined), one should next control one's when ye your wife is a wonderful woman, said abe. Etchemin. Another river also enters the lake, and by the light of the lamp they saw what had with thee, regard thou the period of a day and biopjnligkjs misery one after another in course of time. Thou offhand. He was afraid he might say too much. In the inner apartments joyfully said unto him, hair stand on end. Unvanquished in battle, the everything to save you can i let you go back? 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In-Reply-To: <20be.480b45e3@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080420122122.GW23696@genesis.frugalware.org> <20be.480b45e3@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080420134936.GX23696@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 03:32:20PM +0200, James Buren wrote: > If you use it in pacman, it works, but this is the only place I have > to host stuff, and it does not allow you to view files in directories. ah, ok. then it's intentional. if you want, you can create a nice git fork on repo.or.cz from frugalware-current to maintain your patches. (feel free to ask if you need any help with git for doing so.) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This time there was a 10-day gap without 'pacman -Syu' and it shows. :( Yes, I can see a myriad of updates but I am just not able to update, the errormessages being as follows: -------------------------------------------------------- [10.00.34] warning: curl-7.18.1-1: local version is newer resolving dependencies... done error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: gnome-cups-manager: requires control-center>=2.16.0-4 :: ggv: requires scrollkeeper :: libgnomedb: requires libgda>=3.1.4 -------------------------------------------------------- according to pacman, my current versions are (pacman -Q): curl: 7.18.1-1 gnome-cups-manager: 0.31-2 ggv: 2.12.0-4 libgnomedb: 3.1.1-1 libgda: 3.0.2-1 control-center: -not found- scrollkeeper: -not found- (I seem to remember it was replaced some time ago ...) my repo is updated as of 10am US/Central this morning (21st) it contains (of the above): curl: 7.18.0-2 gnome-cups-manager: 0.31-2 ggv: 2.12.0-4 libgnomedb: 3.1.2-1 libgda: 3.0.2-1 obviously (I hope), no 'control-center' or 'scrollkeeper' So what's happening here? What is it that I don't see? I know I have had the same problem in the past, and if I wait another day or two there are newer packages that will solve the problem. Maybe some more care should be taken in submitting package-builds? All I know is that it is frustrating to try to update when it doesn't work ... Ever since I stumbled upon frugalware, I regard it as the best thing that ever happened (after sliced bread!). I even left my beloved archlinux because of it .... now I'm seriously contemplating going back again. Thanks for listening to my ravings - and if someone could indicate a way out of this 'mess', plueeeeze let me know ... From flakeroats at hotmail.com Mon Apr 21 19:03:08 2008 From: flakeroats at hotmail.com (James Buren) Date: Mon Apr 21 19:03:41 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: I've opened a frugalware repo... In-Reply-To: <20080420134936.GX23696@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20c1.480cc8cc@forums.frugalware.org> 5 new packages in my repo today, they are libev, bmpanel, librep, rep-gtk and sawfish. Enjoy :). From vmiklos at frugalware.org Tue Apr 22 13:30:18 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Tue Apr 22 13:30:20 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] pacman woes In-Reply-To: <20c0.480cb399@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20c0.480cb399@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080422113018.GB22086@genesis.frugalware.org> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:32:43PM +0200, Per Borg-Hansen wrote: > I am an ardent updater - mirroring the official repo and updating 'current' usually every 2 or 3 days. > This time there was a 10-day gap without 'pacman -Syu' and it shows. :( that's not normal, we have such "freezes" only before releases. what mirror do you use? > Yes, I can see a myriad of updates but I am just not able to update, the errormessages being as follows: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > [10.00.34] warning: curl-7.18.1-1: local version is newer > resolving dependencies... done > error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) > :: gnome-cups-manager: requires control-center>=2.16.0-4 > :: ggv: requires scrollkeeper > :: libgnomedb: requires libgda>=3.1.4 > -------------------------------------------------------- the gnome-cups-manager and the libgnomedb issue should be solved by now. bouleetbil is working on fixing ggv as well, afaik. > So what's happening here? What is it that I don't see? > I know I have had the same problem in the past, and if I wait another > day or two there are newer packages that will solve the problem. > > Maybe some more care should be taken in submitting package-builds? All > I know is that it is frustrating to try to update when it doesn't work > ... we updated to gnome-2.22 in current, that caused some problems. we had a separate repo called 'gnome22' to test breakages before we merged it, though there are still some minor issues. please understnad that this updated was about more than 200 changes, and we are humans as well :) > Thanks for listening to my ravings - and if someone could indicate a > way out of this 'mess', plueeeeze let me know ... i think a pacman-g2 -Syu --ignore ggv will do the trick, but the ggv issue will be fixed in a few as well. note: i hope you know that current is for who wants to test our latest development errors, so such minor issues may happen. if you want smooth upgrades all the time, please use -stable: using -current on a production box is not something we recommend. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't realize that gnome had been updated to 2.22 - or I wouldn't have been so quick off the mark with my complaint - I _know_ that's a big one to tackle!! (I used to compile it from scratch some years back - that's when I started using kde instead ... these days I'm xfce-only). So yes - I know what you are up against! As for current versus stable - he he - I like living on the edge! (inspite of spurious disappointments/frustrations). Again - thank you! From perbh at mailshack.com Tue Apr 22 15:26:45 2008 From: perbh at mailshack.com (Per Borg-Hansen) Date: Tue Apr 22 15:27:24 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: pacman woes In-Reply-To: <20c0.480cb399@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20c5.480de793@forums.frugalware.org> btw - and fyi: 'pacman -Syu --ignore ggv' does not work. It still insists that 'ggv' requires 'scrollkeeper' and that libgnomedb requires libgda>=3.1.4 Guess I'll wait some few more days ... From flakeroats at hotmail.com Wed Apr 23 01:21:20 2008 From: flakeroats at hotmail.com (James Buren) Date: Wed Apr 23 01:21:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: I've opened a frugalware repo... In-Reply-To: <20080422113151.GC22086@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20c6.480e72f0@forums.frugalware.org> I'd be glad to, but I would also like to be the maintainer of these packages as well. Since I have no access to the git tree, theres no real way I can maintain them through the official channels of frugalware. Perhaps the role could be reserved for me if I ever earn the privilege, given to a temporary maintainer in the mean time... From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Apr 23 02:10:44 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Apr 23 02:10:46 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: I've opened a frugalware repo... In-Reply-To: <20c6.480e72f0@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080422113151.GC22086@genesis.frugalware.org> <20c6.480e72f0@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080423001044.GB4012@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:21:20AM +0200, James Buren wrote: > I'd be glad to, but I would also like to be the maintainer of these > packages as well. exactly, that's the final target. :) > Since I have no access to the git tree, theres no real way I can > maintain them through the official channels of frugalware. Perhaps the > role could be reserved for me if I ever earn the privilege, given to a > temporary maintainer in the mean time... yup, that's what we usually do. so you can send patches, and we review, then apply them. once reviewing your patches is unnecessary, we'll give you write access and you can maintain the packages where you are currently listed as contributor. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20c9.480f91d1@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20c9.480f91d1@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080423194920.GD9633@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:45:22PM +0200, paparucino wrote: > I'm receiving 192 packages during my daily update. Is there a new release on the gun? That was just the gnome bump. See our roadmap for releases. > Uh... I want to thank the devs since they are doing a great job and make me proud to be a FW user \o/ -- voroskoi From davidwillis at hotmail.com Sat Apr 26 05:33:13 2008 From: davidwillis at hotmail.com (David Willis) Date: Sat Apr 26 05:33:37 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] pacman -Syu error Message-ID: <20cb.4812a276@forums.frugalware.org> When I do a pacman -Syu I get this error: Quote: > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > azureus: /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.ja r exists in filesystem How can I fix this so I can update? Thanks David From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat Apr 26 14:04:43 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat Apr 26 14:04:45 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] pacman -Syu error In-Reply-To: <20cb.4812a276@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20cb.4812a276@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080426120443.GH4012@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 05:33:13AM +0200, David Willis wrote: > When I do a pacman -Syu I get this error: > > Quote: > > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > > azureus: /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.ja r exists in filesystem > > How can I fix this so I can update? please post the output of: pacman -Qo /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.ja anyway probably you can do a pacman -Sfu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks David From crazy at frugalware.org Sat Apr 26 17:40:17 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Sun Apr 27 04:47:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: pacman -Syu error In-Reply-To: <20cd.48134c3b@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20cd.48134c3b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48134CE1.7070809@frugalware.org> David Willis wrote: > > Quote: >> # pacman -Qo /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.ja >> error: No package owns /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.ja /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.ja ?:) Usually java files are called 'jar' , you sure that isn't a typo ?:) Try pacman -Qo /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupdaterpatcher_1.8.8.jar Anyway did you used / installed this azureus autoupdater ? From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun Apr 27 14:32:41 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun Apr 27 14:32:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: pacman -Syu error In-Reply-To: <20cf.4813afef@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080426180211.GM4012@genesis.frugalware.org> <20cf.4813afef@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080427123241.GV4012@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:42:56AM +0200, David Willis wrote: > now the output is : > Quote: > > # pacman -Qo /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupd aterpatcher_1.8.8.jar > > azureus 3.0.5.0-1kalgan1 is an owner of /usr/lib/azureus/plugins/azupdater/azupd aterpatcher_1.8.8.jar > > This is after running pacman -Sfu and pacman -Syu heh, yes. the question was what's the output before -Sfu :) nevermind. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From vmiklos at frugalware.org Tue Apr 29 10:22:38 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Tue Apr 29 10:22:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <20d4.4815fdf6@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20d4.4815fdf6@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080429082238.GA15355@genesis.frugalware.org> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:40:23PM +0200, Vitaliy wrote: > I got the same problem installing from DVD. What is the decision of this problem? Help pls. if your problem is about you can't change dvds during the installation: 1) are you sure there is a task for this problem? searching for "can't change" got 0 results at bugs.frugalware.org for me. 2) as a workaround, you can just install from dvd1 and install packages from dvd2 after you booted to the system. hope this helps. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080430/38bfa004/hitbooster.htm -------------- next part -------------- http://solercio.com/remove/ From rhys.rhaven at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 18:20:39 2008 From: rhys.rhaven at gmail.com (Rhys) Date: Wed Apr 30 18:21:10 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Issues Message-ID: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> I've just switched to frugal due to interest of slackware+pacman. I have used slackware, zenwalk, and arch quite a bit, having problems with each in their design. Frugal has been decent enough. So far things have gone rather well...some problems though. What on -earth- is the launcher for gfpm? Who made that? A hacked xterm? where is ktsuss? (Keep the su simple stupid.) Is there some reason I don't know for doing that? Add ktsuss, make it requirement for gfpm, and create a .desktop file for it. Also, wicd is missing. Is there more repos than frugalware-current? Someone on IRC was nice enough to mention repoman was in "pacman-tools" so I'm looking at the git repo on the sources. What does it take to add things for consideration to the main repos? I can add both packages once finals are done. Rhys From devil505linux at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 18:50:15 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Wed Apr 30 18:50:52 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Issues In-Reply-To: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20d9.4818a346@forums.frugalware.org> For wicd check: http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2385 -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From nix.or.die at googlemail.com Wed Apr 30 18:52:15 2008 From: nix.or.die at googlemail.com (Gabriel C) Date: Wed Apr 30 18:52:52 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Issues In-Reply-To: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <4818A3BF.2090008@frugalware.org> Rhys wrote: > > I've just switched to frugal due to interest of slackware+pacman. I have used slackware, zenwalk, and arch quite a bit, having problems with each in their design. Frugal has been decent enough. So far things have gone rather well...some problems though. > > What on -earth- is the launcher for gfpm? Who made that? A hacked xterm? where is ktsuss? (Keep the su simple stupid.) Is there some reason I don't know for doing that? Add ktsuss, make it requirement for gfpm, and create a .desktop file for it. First of all could you please calm down ? yes ? Thx ;) gfpm has support for {kde,gk}su and sudo. what do you mean by a 'A hacked xterm?' and why do you think not having some package in the repo is such a big issue ? > > Also, wicd is missing. No is not missing we working on adding that support to gnetconfig . This package won't be added to the repos. >Is there more repos than frugalware-current? stable of course :-) Some folks have some custom repos also. > Someone on IRC was nice enough to mention repoman was in "pacman-tools" so I'm looking at the git repo on the sources. What does it take to add things for consideration to the > > main repos? You can find all infos you need about that in our docs. > I can add both packages once finals are done. As said not wicd .. > > Rhys > crazy From rhys.rhaven at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 20:41:55 2008 From: rhys.rhaven at gmail.com (Rhys) Date: Wed Apr 30 20:42:40 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Issues In-Reply-To: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20db.4818bd72@forums.frugalware.org> That first post did not sound like i wanted it to. I don't mean to be arrogant, to be a new user and presume that i know how to do things better. the problem under xfce isn't the gfpm, but the xfce mcs plugin for it. it uses an xterm window to launch it. I just thought it was standard via freedesktop.org to include .desktop files with GUI programs, and the gnome,xfce, kde etc all handle those. Is gnetconfig custom frugal? Time to read more Docs. From priyankmg at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 20:42:49 2008 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Wed Apr 30 20:43:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Issues In-Reply-To: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20dc.4818bda9@forums.frugalware.org> Quote: > What on -earth- is the launcher for gfpm? This launcher (on earth) is something that launches Gfpm. On XFCE/GNOME/KDE you can find it in the respective menus. Quote: > Who made that ? ME! Quote: > A hacked xterm? It's not a hacked xterm for god sake. It's a fallback option. >From what i assume, you are probably trying to start Gfpm from XFCE's control center. The launcher you see there is a plugin which simply checks if 'gksu' is installed on the system and if it is, then it launches gfpm using gksu. BUT, in case if gksu is not installed, the plugin still tries to launch gfpm using 'xterm -e su -c gfpm'. And i think that's much better than displaying a message like 'I AM NOT ABLE TO RUN GFPM because GKSU is not installed!' Quote: > I where is ktsuss? (Keep the su simple stupid.) Is there some reason I don't know for doing that? Add ktsuss, make it requirement for gfpm, and create a .desktop file for it. I don't know wheres ktsuss. And i think xterm does the job and we don't need another foosu. -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From priyankmg at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 20:45:19 2008 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Wed Apr 30 20:46:08 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Issues In-Reply-To: <20db.4818bd72@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20dd.4818be3e@forums.frugalware.org> Quote: > Is gnetconfig custom frugal? Yes, it's a gui network configuration tool for Frugalware. To install it, run pacman-g2 -S gnetconfig -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ]