From neverdream at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 06:42:26 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Fri Aug 1 06:42:55 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: User Friendly Distros In-Reply-To: <21b6.48913393@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21b7.4892942f@forums.frugalware.org> The phrase "user friendly" is normally applied to a distribution that can spoon-feed its users. It can shield its users from the command line and therefore has a GUI tool for every aspect of configuration. AFAIK, Frugal only has GUI tools for a few things (package management, updating, and network) and doesn't spoon-feed its users like Ubuntu does. That being said, I find Frugal considerably easy to configure, since most of the config files have been consolidated in /etc/sysconfig. -- ~ ~ :wq From neverdream at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 15:57:54 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Fri Aug 1 15:58:50 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Call for tips and tricks! In-Reply-To: <21a1.487e24df@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21b8.48931661@forums.frugalware.org> boldie wrote on Wed, 16 July 2008 12:42 > I just never managed to remember how to run GUIs as root (you cli gurus read no further). What the name of that Xauth-something-file to copy to roots folder? I got feed up the zillionth time I had to look it up and made an alias in roots .bashrc (that is /root/.bashrc): > > alias cpx="cp /home/USER/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority" > > cpx will now copy the right file to the right place. (Is this dangerous in any way?) While I'm not sure if that's dangerous, it seems sort of hackish. The typical way to do this is to run xhost +localhost as the normal user who's running the X server before you become superuser (in fact, it'll let all users on localhost connect to the X server). While the manpage says you can specify a user like xhost +root I always get an error message. Despite the manpage, xhost seems to only want hostnames. -- ~ ~ :wq From dex at dragonslave.de Fri Aug 1 18:13:50 2008 From: dex at dragonslave.de (Daniel Exner) Date: Fri Aug 1 18:14:34 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Call for tips and tricks! Message-ID: <21b9.4893363c@forums.frugalware.org> Simple solution: sudo I keep doing: sudo kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst :) From richardg.nw at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 20:04:08 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Fri Aug 1 20:04:34 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Distribution Message-ID: <21ba.48935018@forums.frugalware.org> If someone wants to share Frugalware will another, what would be the proper procedure for giving it to them? Due to the GPL, I believe the proper way would be to include the source code. Could please someone tell me where the source code is that corresponds to the released ISOs? From neverdream at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 07:19:34 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sat Aug 2 07:20:25 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <21ba.48935018@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21bb.4893ee64@forums.frugalware.org> The Frugalware source code is kept in an online git repository. You can access the web interface http://git.frugalware.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi. -- ~ ~ :wq From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 15:00:20 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Sat Aug 2 15:00:51 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] login window Message-ID: <21bc.48945a63@forums.frugalware.org> Hi all, I've prepared a new login window to replace the one in use. Of course I don't know how to change it. :) I tried with Settings->Login window but since I use xdm and xfce4 it's unuseful. What's the solution? Thank you in advance -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From neverdream at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 19:00:19 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sat Aug 2 19:01:00 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: login window In-Reply-To: <21bc.48945a63@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21bd.489492a2@forums.frugalware.org> Do you mean you want to change your xdm theme? Or do you want to use a display manager other than xdm? If you want to change your xdm theme, you need to do some meddling with the files in /etc/X11/xdm. If you want to change your display manager, have a look in /etc/sysconfig/desktop. -- ~ ~ :wq From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 19:16:22 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Sat Aug 2 19:17:16 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: login window In-Reply-To: <21bd.489492a2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21be.48949666@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Sat, 02 August 2008 19:00 > Do you mean you want to change your xdm theme? Or do you want to use a display manager other than xdm? > > If you want to change your xdm theme, you need to do some meddling with the files in /etc/X11/xdm. > > If you want to change your display manager, have a look in /etc/sysconfig/desktop. I'ld like to change the theme. Xfce is the best WM for me. Thank you -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From zephyr83 at tin.it Sun Aug 3 03:39:59 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Sun Aug 3 03:40:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Wammu's dependencies (?) Message-ID: <21bf.48950c6d@forums.frugalware.org> Sorry form my english! I installed wammu with pacman but I don't understand why it install again some package linked gnome: gnome-bluetooth, gnome-python, libgnome, gnome-keyring, gnome-frugalware.... I use kde and I don't want this package....wammu doesn't need this packages From richardg.nw at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 04:44:31 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Sun Aug 3 04:45:46 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <21ba.48935018@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21c0.48951b89@forums.frugalware.org> Thank you for the information. As a side note, does anyone know if the source code must be given if the person receiving the code says that they do not want the source code? I suppose - as long as the code is being offered - the source code would have to be offered too. However, at the time when one receives the code, could the receiving individual wave the offer for the source code and just receive the executable? From neverdream at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 07:06:06 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sun Aug 3 07:06:38 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: login window In-Reply-To: <21bc.48945a63@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21c1.48953cbc@forums.frugalware.org> You can use any display manager to load Xfce :p If you're insistent on using xdm, you should check out the xdm-frugalware package which provides an attractive Frugalware theme for xdm :) -- ~ ~ :wq From neverdream at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 07:08:06 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sun Aug 3 07:08:37 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <21ba.48935018@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21c2.48953d35@forums.frugalware.org> You don't have to distribute the source code in physical form alongside the binaries. The source code is available online, which is good enough to satisfy the GPL :) -- ~ ~ :wq From neverdream at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 07:13:02 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sun Aug 3 07:13:55 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Wammu's dependencies (?) In-Reply-To: <21bf.48950c6d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21c3.48953e5c@forums.frugalware.org> Wammu needs gnome-bluetooth, which in turn needs some other Gnome packages. -- ~ ~ :wq From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun Aug 3 10:00:50 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun Aug 3 10:00:53 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Call for tips and tricks! In-Reply-To: <21b8.48931661@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21a1.487e24df@forums.frugalware.org> <21b8.48931661@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080803080050.GC32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:57:54PM +0200, Cory wrote: > While I'm not sure if that's dangerous, it seems sort of hackish. The > typical way to do this is to run xhost +localhost It is. and xhost is again something you do not want to use if you use X remotely (don't count if you use via ssh). Why not use gksu / kdesu / sudo, which does not set your HOME environment variable, so that you can just say 'sudo xclock' and it'll work. ;-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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IANAL, but the term "offer" is important here. We put out the source tarball for each package to anonftp, but that's not necessary. To satisfy GPL, it would be even enough to send the tarballs privately to who asks for it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080803/ded09096/attachment.sig From zephyr83 at tin.it Sun Aug 3 19:45:04 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Sun Aug 3 19:45:50 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Wammu's dependencies (?) In-Reply-To: <21c3.48953e5c@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21c6.4895ee9f@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Sun, 03 August 2008 07:13 > Wammu needs gnome-bluetooth, which in turn needs some other Gnome packages. I don't think!! In past I have installed wammu without gnome-bluetooth! From forum at frugalware.dk Sun Aug 3 20:39:31 2008 From: forum at frugalware.dk (Carl Andersen) Date: Sun Aug 3 20:39:46 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Screenshot's of Frugalware Message-ID: <4895FB63.9000408@frugalware.dk> Hi from Denmark I have changed layout on the Danish page http://frugalware.dk I'd like to have many different screnshot's of Frugalware (20-30) up in right corner of the blog. Is there somebody who can refer to some screenshot's that I must use freely -- ./ Carl Andersen http://frugalware.dk | http://danish-wordpress.dk/ From bouleetbil at frogdev.info Sun Aug 3 21:19:18 2008 From: bouleetbil at frogdev.info (bouleetbil) Date: Sun Aug 3 21:20:10 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Wammu's dependencies (?) In-Reply-To: <21bf.48950c6d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21c8.489604b5@forums.frugalware.org> Hi, thanks I delete some gnome* depends. Now you can install wammu without gnome. (Just wait wammu-0.28-2) The last time that you find a bug you can send a task : http://bugs.frugalware.org/ From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun Aug 3 23:09:42 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun Aug 3 23:09:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Screenshot's of Frugalware In-Reply-To: <4895FB63.9000408@frugalware.dk> References: <4895FB63.9000408@frugalware.dk> Message-ID: <20080803210942.GI32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 08:39:31PM +0200, Carl Andersen wrote: > Hi from Denmark > I have changed layout on the Danish page http://frugalware.dk I'd like to > have many different screnshot's of Frugalware (20-30) up in right corner of > the blog. > > Is there somebody who can refer to some screenshot's that I must use freely http://frugalware.org/screenshots These are fee ones, but the first few is really outdated (2 years old ones). The end of it is quite up to date. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Just wait wammu-0.28-2) > The last time that you find a bug you can send a task : > http://bugs.frugalware.org/ good 8) From neverdream at gmail.com Mon Aug 4 04:39:00 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Mon Aug 4 04:39:27 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Text Editor? Message-ID: <21cc.48966bc2@forums.frugalware.org> Just your run-of-the-mill text editor poll :d No flamewars, please! -- ~ ~ :wq From bagrobi at citromail.hu Mon Aug 4 08:22:02 2008 From: bagrobi at citromail.hu (kikadf) Date: Mon Aug 4 08:22:55 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Text Editor? In-Reply-To: <21cc.48966bc2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21cd.4896a009@forums.frugalware.org> kwrite, joe. :roll: From carl at frugalware.dk Mon Aug 4 21:42:33 2008 From: carl at frugalware.dk (Carl Andersen) Date: Mon Aug 4 21:43:28 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Screenshot's of Frugalware In-Reply-To: <20080803210942.GI32057@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21ce.48975ba8@forums.frugalware.org> Thanks. Then I have put screenshot up on http://frugalware.dk There is especially a delicious screenshot :p http://www4.ncsu.edu/~cmburget/images/pretty-in-pink.png -- Carl Andersen http://www.ligustica.dk/ | http://www.frugalware.dk/ | From devil505linux at gmail.com Mon Aug 4 22:54:01 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Mon Aug 4 22:54:53 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Screenshot's of Frugalware In-Reply-To: <4895FB63.9000408@frugalware.dk> Message-ID: <21cf.48976c68@forums.frugalware.org> Carl Andersen wrote on Sun, 03 August 2008 20:39 > Is there somebody who can refer to some screenshot's that I must use freely > [/url] You can use screenshots from frugalware-fr gallery: http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/galerie/?alb=3 :p -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From russelldickenson at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 04:53:03 2008 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Tue Aug 5 04:53:59 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Text Editor? In-Reply-To: <21cd.4896a009@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21d0.4897c08d@forums.frugalware.org> Geany, SciTE From richardg.nw at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 05:12:44 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Tue Aug 5 05:13:57 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Text Editor? In-Reply-To: <21cc.48966bc2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21d1.4897c528@forums.frugalware.org> KWrite or mcedit... It depends upon whether I want to use the terminal to edit the file or not. From richardg.nw at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 05:18:37 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Tue Aug 5 05:19:03 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] /etc/hosts Message-ID: <21d2.4897c68a@forums.frugalware.org> Can someone tell me whether or not this /etc/hosts file looks right? If I understand the file correctly, then I'm not sure why 'local' is being used as an alias of 'local'. (Yes, I did simply use 'local' as my computers host name.) # For loopbacking. 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.1 local local # End of hosts. From dex at dragonslave.de Tue Aug 5 13:29:43 2008 From: dex at dragonslave.de (Daniel Exner) Date: Tue Aug 5 13:30:43 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Text Editor? In-Reply-To: <21cc.48966bc2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21d3.489839a5@forums.frugalware.org> nvi :) From carl at frugalware.dk Tue Aug 5 17:57:44 2008 From: carl at frugalware.dk (Carl Andersen) Date: Tue Aug 5 17:59:17 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Screenshot's of Frugalware In-Reply-To: <21cf.48976c68@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21d4.48987877@forums.frugalware.org> Thanks Devil505 :) I have put your screenshot up on http://frugalware.dk -- Carl Andersen http://www.ligustica.dk/ | http://www.frugalware.dk/ | From malhzra at hotmail.com Tue Aug 5 18:26:17 2008 From: malhzra at hotmail.com (julian) Date: Tue Aug 5 18:27:09 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 Message-ID: <21d5.48987f29@forums.frugalware.org> now kde 4.1 is released will it be added in current? From neverdream at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 20:03:58 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Tue Aug 5 20:04:20 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: /etc/hosts In-Reply-To: <21d2.4897c68a@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21d6.4898960d@forums.frugalware.org> It looks fine to me. There's two "local"s because you didn't specify a domain name, just a host name. -- ~ ~ :wq From zephyr83 at tin.it Wed Aug 6 02:56:33 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Wed Aug 6 02:57:13 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <21d5.48987f29@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21d7.4898f6c0@forums.frugalware.org> tabris wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 18:26 > now kde 4.1 is released will it be added in current? I hope ee'll see kde after Solaria! I try it with Arch and for me it isn't ready also missing many apps in qt4 (amarok in particular) From nix.or.die at googlemail.com Wed Aug 6 03:10:22 2008 From: nix.or.die at googlemail.com (Gabriel C) Date: Wed Aug 6 03:12:03 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <21d5.48987f29@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21d5.48987f29@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <4898F9FE.4020202@frugalware.org> julian wrote: > > now kde 4.1 is released will it be added in current? Nope , is still a big bug , sorry . I hope 4.2 or at least 4.1.x looks better so we can push KDE4 to 1.0 but who knows .. a lot stuff still broken / missing crazy From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Aug 6 10:55:38 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Aug 6 10:55:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Text Editor? In-Reply-To: <21d3.489839a5@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21cc.48966bc2@forums.frugalware.org> <21d3.489839a5@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080806085538.GV32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:29:43PM +0200, Daniel Exner wrote: > nvi :) vim :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080806/1f14d9c0/attachment.sig From forum at frugalware.dk Wed Aug 6 12:58:38 2008 From: forum at frugalware.dk (Carl Andersen) Date: Wed Aug 6 12:58:49 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Text Editor? In-Reply-To: <20080806085538.GV32057@genesis.frugalware.org> References: <21cc.48966bc2@forums.frugalware.org> <21d3.489839a5@forums.frugalware.org> <20080806085538.GV32057@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <489983DE.5070705@frugalware.dk> Miklos Vajna skrev: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:29:43PM +0200, Daniel Exner wrote: > >> nvi :) >> > > vim Nano and nvi :-) -- ./ Carl Andersen http://frugalware.dk | http://danish-wordpress.dk/ From Jakub at mail.linuxforum.hu Wed Aug 6 15:35:43 2008 From: Jakub at mail.linuxforum.hu (Jakub@mail.linuxforum.hu) Date: Wed Aug 6 15:36:12 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: <21ab.48878611@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21db.4899a8ae@forums.frugalware.org> Done. Sorry it took sooo long, but... I've been forced to do some housework:P If someone happens to speak Polish, please feel free to do some debugging;) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From neverdream at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 17:45:15 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Fri Aug 8 17:46:18 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: high temperature - laptop In-Reply-To: <21dc.489c176d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21dd.489c6a0a@forums.frugalware.org> If your processor supports scaling, you can try throttling the speed when not doing processor-intensive activities (in fact, the 'conservative' cpufreq governor will do this automatically). Also, if you're using an nvidia or ati card, try running the proprietary drivers with it... if not, then try using the vesa driver. If the fan is already running properly, then there's not much more you can do except maybe try to get more airflow around the machine. Have a look http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption. -- ~ ~ :wq From Jakub at mail.linuxforum.hu Fri Aug 8 22:38:56 2008 From: Jakub at mail.linuxforum.hu (Jakub@mail.linuxforum.hu) Date: Fri Aug 8 22:40:02 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: high temperature - laptop In-Reply-To: <21dc.489c176d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21de.489caedf@forums.frugalware.org> I already use powernowd for throttling, same thing with the drivers. Eh, I think it's a bad design to be blamed. Thanks for tips:) From neverdream at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 03:38:09 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sat Aug 9 03:38:56 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: high temperature - laptop In-Reply-To: <21dc.489c176d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21df.489cf500@forums.frugalware.org> If it's any consolation, the core temperature on my laptop also gets up around 60C in Linux (regardless of distro), but feels considerably cooler to the touch in Windows. I've been running exclusively Linux on it for about a year and haven't run into any hardware problems from the heat ( knock on wood :d ). It's only aggravating on my lap, but I've found some sitting positions that help keep good airflow underneath the machine and help a lot. It's also encouraging to think that laptop support in Linux (and also in other FOSS OS's) is getting much better with every release :) -- ~ ~ :wq From richardg.nw at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 07:29:23 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Sat Aug 9 07:31:35 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: high temperature - laptop In-Reply-To: <21dc.489c176d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21e0.489d2b2e@forums.frugalware.org> On my laptop, I used to find that gkrellm reported the temperature to be around 60 degrees celcius. However, once I got Klaptop to handle the performance profiles properly (I had to manually do some work such as editing the module loaded at boot if I recall correctly), I found that the conservative performance profile significantly lowered the temperature. My current temperature readings on gkrellm with the conservative performance profile are along the lines of... TZCR 51.0C temp1 56.0C temp2 43.0C temp3 44.0C temp4 47.0C From brdam at email.cz Sun Aug 10 19:49:20 2008 From: brdam at email.cz (Martin Burda) Date: Sun Aug 10 19:50:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] package Kiax Message-ID: <21e1.489f2a1f@forums.frugalware.org> Hello everybody, I have installed package kiax-0.8.51 to try call over voipbuster. But not any binary/executable file in this package :). What's the weird? Files included in package are: /usr/share/ /usr/share/applications/ /usr/share/applications/kiax.desktop /usr/share/doc/ /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/ /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/CHANGELOG /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/COPYING /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/INSTALL /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/INSTALL.BG_CP1251 /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/INSTALL.BG_UTF8 /usr/share/doc/kiax-0.8.51/README.Frugalware /usr/share/kiax/ /usr/share/kiax/i18n/ /usr/share/kiax/i18n/kiax_bg.qm /usr/share/kiax/i18n/kiax_de.qm /usr/share/kiax/i18n/kiax_en.qm /usr/share/kiax/i18n/kiax_fr.qm /usr/share/kiax/icons/ /usr/share/kiax/icons/account-connected.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/account-connecting.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/account-rejected.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/account-small.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/account-timeout.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/account.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/contact.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/dial.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/failed.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/hangup.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/hold.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/incoming.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/kiaxlogo.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/missed.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/outgoing.png /usr/share/kiax/icons/resume.png Did I some wrong? From neverdream at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 04:19:17 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Tue Aug 12 04:20:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: wallpaper competition... almost got there In-Reply-To: <21e2.48a0d967@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21e3.48a0f322@forums.frugalware.org> Very nice. I like this a lot :) -- ~ ~ :wq From devil505linux at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 07:10:07 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Tue Aug 12 07:11:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: wallpaper competition... almost got there In-Reply-To: <21e2.48a0d967@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21e4.48a11b27@forums.frugalware.org> music_composer, don't send mail to ML -devel with too big files attached, because there is a limit of size. ;) Please contact vmiklos on irc (#frugalware) maybe he can still make an exception for you. Devil505 -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From music_composer at myway.com Tue Aug 12 02:29:32 2008 From: music_composer at myway.com (Darek) Date: Tue Aug 12 13:50:09 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] wallpaper competition... almost got there Message-ID: <21e2.48a0d967@forums.frugalware.org> Frugalware-devel@frugalware.org does not like my email, or my email does not like frugalware-devel :( I just realised it after sending my xcf two times for the competition. First time on time and 2nd time few hours after competitions date closed. Reading devel mailing list archives, I see that my mails were not delivered at all to frugalware.org :( Because I spend some time to make my wallpaper and I did it with other people in mind, there is no reason to keep it only for myself now, so here you are. Preview: Use it at will, source xcf is in attachment. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now my laptop generates much less noise and is much less likely to burn through my desk;) From zephyr83 at tin.it Fri Aug 15 03:03:24 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Fri Aug 15 03:04:12 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: package Kiax In-Reply-To: <21e1.489f2a1f@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21e7.48a4d5db@forums.frugalware.org> I tried and I have same problems From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat Aug 16 02:49:24 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat Aug 16 02:49:26 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: package Kiax In-Reply-To: <21e7.48a4d5db@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21e1.489f2a1f@forums.frugalware.org> <21e7.48a4d5db@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080816004924.GB18960@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 03:03:24AM +0200, Marietto wrote: > I tried and I have same problems See http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/3291, it has been recently fixed. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080816/46609851/attachment.sig From leighallison at earthlink.net Sun Aug 17 03:39:06 2008 From: leighallison at earthlink.net (Allison) Date: Sun Aug 17 03:39:51 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Does this distro handle settings without user involve? Message-ID: <21e9.48a78139@forums.frugalware.org> After a long time of sticking with arch I decided to reinstall FW. Hmm, I could go on on with a bunch of geeky junk, but I have to say, besides the fact that I was totally lost for a time, I decided to try and think like a frugal person would. Wouldn't you know it, I started finding stuff! hehe You Frugal guys are pretty cool! Also a bit modest, which makes FW even more appealing. If frugal and arch were football teams, I think I would find myself cheering for the frugal guys ;) Unless you were totally destroying and crucifying the arch guys, then I would feel sorry for them! Despite their somewhat arrogant attitudes, they are cool too! :roll: -- "我爱我的朋友" From leighallison at earthlink.net Sun Aug 17 04:26:17 2008 From: leighallison at earthlink.net (Allison) Date: Sun Aug 17 04:27:22 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 Message-ID: <21ea.48a78c42@forums.frugalware.org> I hope that even when kde4 becomes usable, that you very cool frugal guys will still keep kde3 avaliable. I think even if usable, kde4 is on a very long road to becomming as solid and dependable as kde3. -- "从前他们把我当作活女神崇拜" From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Sun Aug 17 11:36:43 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Sun Aug 17 11:38:27 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <21ea.48a78c42@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21eb.48a7f124@forums.frugalware.org> Well, I am amazed. Since 6 August, just one request in this (English) forum to keep KDE3, and not a single plea for KDE4. I thought that Frugalware was about being, at least, near to the bleeding edge. And this edge isn't really bleeding at all. I have been using KDE4 since 4.0 became available. I upgraded to 4.1 when it was released. I can report that it is a joy to use. It is stable. On the rare occasions when I have managed to provoke plasma to crash it has restarted automatically and quickly. KDE4 is very pretty and it is very powerful, providing new data handling facilities and concepts - new that is to the desktop world in general, not just to KDE. I have been using KDE4 on openSUSE 11.0's 64 bit version, where I have been able to run KDE3 apps and 32 bit apps seamlessly, alongside the ever improving range of KDE4 apps. Let us look at it a layer at a time. At the base level, the QT4 widget set is great. The proof of that particular pudding may be seen to lie in the standard of the development tools. They are most impressive, providing classes of great power and flexibility. The KDE4 desktop itself, with its layered plasma architecture, is fast, beautiful and a joy to use. The memory management seems to be even better than in KDE3. And now the top layer - the KDE4 apps - is advancing at great speed. Kopete has been improved. Kontact is better than before. Konqueror is, as always, the best web browser available. Dolphin, to my great surprise, has become my favourite file manager. (Don't confuse it with D3lphin.) And there are loads more applications which are better than ever. On the alpha release front we have Amarok and Digikam both working very well with many new features. KOffice2 is already offering possibilities not available in any other office suite. The quality of these alpha programs is much higher than we have any right to expect. They are usable and, on my machine at any rate, they are used. Now I appreciate that many people will wish to keep their tried and trusted KDE3. I also appreciate that many people will wish to wait for more maturity in the desktop and its apps before switching. But I would urge everyone to come to grips with this new desktop as soon as they can. This is not just a version bump. KDE4 is setting new desktop standards which must be rattling cages throughout the interface design world, both proprietary and OSS. Come on, Frugalware, join in! The water's great! -- Bob From neverdream at gmail.com Sun Aug 17 22:30:15 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Sun Aug 17 22:31:26 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 Message-ID: <21ec.48a88a56@forums.frugalware.org> Frugalware has a stable-only policy when it comes to packages, and although the KDE devs have labeled KDE4 as stable, it's obvious that it isn't from a user's perspective. The other K* applications which compose the desktop still aren't stable. My guess is that crazy is waiting for KOffice 2, Amarok 2, etc. to be ready. -- ~ ~ :wq From zephyr83 at tin.it Mon Aug 18 05:40:04 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Mon Aug 18 05:40:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash Message-ID: <21ed.48a8ef11@forums.frugalware.org> How? :( In particular with Opera 9.51 (installed with repoman) From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Mon Aug 18 09:16:04 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Mon Aug 18 09:17:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <21ec.48a88a56@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21ee.48a921ad@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Sun, 17 August 2008 22:30 > Frugalware has a stable-only policy when it comes to packages, and although the KDE devs have labeled KDE4 as stable, it's obvious that it isn't from a user's perspective. The other K* applications which compose the desktop still aren't stable. My guess is that crazy is waiting for KOffice 2, Amarok 2, etc. to be ready. It certainly is not obvious to me. KDE4 is stable. And it runs Amarok2 just fine here. As for KOffice2, well that runs as well as any alpha release can be expected to, but there are also plenty of other options. OpenOffice.org runs just fine. KDE4 is a desktop environment which is in use by many people. It is stable and, IMHO, the best desktop environment available today. I left Slackware and installed Trantor pre2 because Slackware was stuck in the 2.4.x kernel rut. I just do not believe that Frugalware will stick in a similar rut. Will it? -- Bob From devil505linux at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 09:26:35 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Mon Aug 18 09:27:49 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21ed.48a8ef11@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21ef.48a92429@forums.frugalware.org> Hi :) Not (yet?) possible with Opera. You can have firefox32+flash by following this tutorial: http://wiki.frugalware.org/Firefox_32bit_with_Flash :) -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From nix.or.die at googlemail.com Mon Aug 18 12:31:36 2008 From: nix.or.die at googlemail.com (Gabriel C) Date: Mon Aug 18 12:33:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <21ee.48a921ad@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21ee.48a921ad@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48A94F88.4000804@frugalware.org> Bob Waddington wrote: > > groovy2shoes wrote on Sun, 17 August 2008 22:30 >> Frugalware has a stable-only policy when it comes to packages, and although the KDE devs have labeled KDE4 as stable, it's obvious that it isn't from a user's perspective. The other K* applications which compose the desktop still aren't stable. My guess is that crazy is waiting for KOffice 2, Amarok 2, etc. to be ready. > > > It certainly is not obvious to me. > > KDE4 is stable. No is not , at least not yet and is *still* not complete which is a big problem. To get it usable you have to mix KDE3 and KDE4 *which I won't do* no matter what you are saying. I do use KDE4 before it was called 4.xalpha I know very well the bugs and missing things ( since I'm subscribed to every damn kde-* mailing list including bugs and commits ), no worries. Also remember we have KDE developers in our own devel team. >And it runs Amarok2 just fine here. As for KOffice2, well that runs as well as any alpha release can be expected to, but there are also plenty of other options. OpenOffice.org runs just fine Not a option to replace any stable SW by pre-alpha and again not a option to replace KofficeX by OOo from the 'distro point of view' , why you folks don't get that ? > KDE4 is a desktop environment which is in use by many people. It is stable and, IMHO, the best desktop environment available today. Yes but not pure KDE4 , KDE3+KDE4 mix and again while is *much better* or *more stable than 4.0.x* it does not means it is 'ready to replace KDE3' nor does that means it is stable. > > I left Slackware and installed Trantor pre2 because Slackware was stuck in the 2.4.x kernel rut. I just do not believe that Frugalware will stick in a similar rut. Will it? For sure not but we are not mad to break working things just while some users cannot wait. In short 0.9 won't have KDE4.X , most probably 1.X. From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Mon Aug 18 13:36:58 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Mon Aug 18 13:37:55 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <48A94F88.4000804@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f1.48a95ed7@forums.frugalware.org> No, as I understand it you do *not* have to mix KDE4 with KDE3 to make KDE4 stable. You need the KDE3 libraries if you wish to run KDE3 apps under KDE4. And quite what the moral problem with that is, I just don't see. There seems to be great confusion between desktop environments and software apps written to use their facilities. XFCE has no office suite of its own, but it is seen as a usable desktop. How many IceWM users would be without the GIMP? There is no sinfulness involved in running OpenOffice under KDE. I have been doing that for years, and still I have not been struck by lightning. When will you judge the KDE4 environment to be "complete"? When plasma development stops? If so, we are in for a very long wait. And please tell me, do you see the KDE3/4 choice as an either/or situation? Can a distro not include both, and leave the choice to users? Or do you see Frugalware as becoming a single desktop distro? Which one would you choose? KDE? XFCE? BlackBox? I don't think I ever asked for stable SW to be replaced by pre-alpha. I don't think any other "folks" did either, at least not in this discussion. Well, there we are. Gabriel C says no KDE4 in Frugalware until 1.0 - presumably March 2009. Discussion over, I guess. Message received, very clearly. Bye. -- Bob From mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net Tue Aug 19 12:54:07 2008 From: mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net (mathieu buffat) Date: Tue Aug 19 12:55:37 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] 2 issues with the latest upgrades Message-ID: <21f2.48aaa649@forums.frugalware.org> hello all, Here's 2 problem I meet with my fresh upgrade on my DELL PRECISION M6300: -1st: wifi problem, my Ipw 4965 connect and disconnect less than 1 minute after without any log problem.I have to down then up the connection to get another minute of connection and so on... It seems that a bug has been reported with the latest kernel. -2nd: My DVD does not work although all liveCD boots fine on it. No pb with USB key or external USB hardware (HDD or cam).I saw a bug was alsa reported but even with the udev package refrshed the problem stay.o get Hence I wonder how I can come back on the previous state of frugalware (a kind of rollback) at least for the kernel to get the wifi module work that is my main issue actually. Thanks in advance From zephyr83 at tin.it Tue Aug 19 13:37:35 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Tue Aug 19 13:38:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21ef.48a92429@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f3.48aab07e@forums.frugalware.org> Devil505 wrote on Mon, 18 August 2008 09:26 > Hi :) > > Flashplugin is not avaliable for arch x86_64 sorry. > > You can have firefox32+flash by following this tutorial: > > http://wiki.frugalware.org/Firefox_32bit_with_Flash > > :) :? I use opera and I don't want to install app 32bit....I return to frugalware 32 bit.....I hope soon I'll try again frugalware 64bit without problem! I know that the fault is Adobe but other linux OS allow to use it easily From mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net Tue Aug 19 14:14:32 2008 From: mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net (mathieu buffat) Date: Tue Aug 19 14:15:37 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21f3.48aab07e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f4.48aab927@forums.frugalware.org> Hello, I don't know if the package is availiable for frugalware, but you have nspluginwrapper that allows to use 32bits plugins with 64bit browser. A little search on internet will allow you tio find many howto. Regards From devil505linux at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 14:22:10 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Tue Aug 19 14:23:25 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21f3.48aab07e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f5.48aabaf2@forums.frugalware.org> zephyr83 wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 13:37 > :? I use opera and I don't want to install app 32bit....I return to frugalware 32 bit.....I hope soon I'll try again frugalware 64bit without problem! I know that the fault is Adobe but other linux OS allow to use it easily Others distros use the same way (chroot for emulation 32) or lib32. nspluginwrapper is not a good solution it seems: http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2782 http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2755 http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2623 :? -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From zephyr83 at tin.it Wed Aug 20 03:27:50 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Wed Aug 20 03:28:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21f5.48aabaf2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f6.48ab7315@forums.frugalware.org> Devil505 wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 14:22 > zephyr83 wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 13:37 > > :? I use opera and I don't want to install app 32bit....I return to frugalware 32 bit.....I hope soon I'll try again frugalware 64bit without problem! I know that the fault is Adobe but other linux OS allow to use it easily > > > Others distros use the same way (chroot for emulation 32) or lib32. > > nspluginwrapper is not a good solution it seems: > > http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2782 > > http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2755 > > http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2623 > > :? gnash (debian, ubuntu, arch) works with firefox and konqueror 64bit...again youtube! From zephyr83 at tin.it Wed Aug 20 03:41:32 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Wed Aug 20 03:42:14 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21f4.48aab927@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f7.48ab764c@forums.frugalware.org> heimdal wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 14:14 > Hello, > > I don't know if the package is availiable for frugalware, but you have nspluginwrapper that allows to use 32bits plugins with 64bit browser. > > A little search on internet will allow you tio find many howto. > > Regards incomprehensibly nspluginwrapper isn't avaible! From neverdream at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 03:46:13 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Wed Aug 20 03:46:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21ed.48a8ef11@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f8.48ab7764@forums.frugalware.org> I was a little surprised that ndiswrapper isn't in the repos as well. I tried to compile it myself and got some errors but I didn't explore it further. I don't use 64bit anything anymore, though, since the advantages of it at this point seem marginal. -- ~ ~ :wq From neverdream at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 03:52:55 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Wed Aug 20 03:53:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: 2 issues with the latest upgrades In-Reply-To: <21f2.48aaa649@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21f9.48ab78f6@forums.frugalware.org> The ipw drivers are deprecated. Use the iwl driver instead. The firmware package is called iwlwifi-4965-ucode and the driver itself is included in the kernel. Can you give us more information about your DVD drive? -- ~ ~ :wq From TopBloke at operamail.com Wed Aug 20 04:08:45 2008 From: TopBloke at operamail.com (Jason) Date: Wed Aug 20 04:12:45 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Cant Install Using expert mode Message-ID: <21fa.48ab7ca7@forums.frugalware.org> How can you install using expert mode. I have tried numorous ways but when I have chosen all the pkgs it will go to next choice mode or screen where you then get a list of what your next step to take is like create root passwd,grub,select pkgs etc, but no matter what I choose it wont install the pkgs I had just chosen, even after choosing "install pkgs" mode or whatever is last on the list as well. the best it does is it says your selected pkgs have been installed but it hasnt installed them at all. AnyOne else found this problem From neverdream at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 05:22:38 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Wed Aug 20 05:23:30 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <21fa.48ab7ca7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21fb.48ab8dfb@forums.frugalware.org> :arrow: http://bugs.frugalware.org/ -- ~ ~ :wq From TopBloke at operamail.com Wed Aug 20 05:43:31 2008 From: TopBloke at operamail.com (Jason) Date: Wed Aug 20 05:44:08 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <21fa.48ab7ca7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21fc.48ab92df@forums.frugalware.org> I meant to add I downloaded the Latest DVD Version of Frugalware 09 rc1. I will have to settle for the basic setup which I had found installs but will have to add a GUI etc after. From zephyr83 at tin.it Wed Aug 20 05:50:42 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Wed Aug 20 05:52:29 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21f8.48ab7764@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21fd.48ab9490@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Wed, 20 August 2008 03:46 > I was a little surprised that ndiswrapper isn't in the repos as well. I tried to compile it myself and got some errors but I didn't explore it further. I don't use 64bit anything anymore, though, since the advantages of it at this point seem marginal. ndiswrapper (for wi-fi) is avaible, nspluginwrapper no! I try to install from source nspluginwrapper but without success. I installed gnash and flash with firefox WORKS!!! Again youtube! in konqueror and Opera don't works but now youtube don't show the message tha we have to install flash plugin. Why gnash isn't present in frugalware's repo? From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 06:02:25 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Wed Aug 20 06:03:56 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <21fc.48ab92df@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21fe.48ab974e@forums.frugalware.org> eveready wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 22:43 > I meant to add I downloaded the Latest DVD Version of Frugalware 09 rc1. > I will have to settle for the basic setup which I had found installs but will have to add a GUI etc after. Does it give any errors? I've run into a problem with trying to install the first cd. (It failed whenever I selected the kde package group.) I have submitted a bug report on this... http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/3264 Does this look similar to the error you're running into? From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 06:10:09 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Wed Aug 20 06:11:45 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] https://forums.frugalware.org Message-ID: <21ff.48ab991d@forums.frugalware.org> Is "https://forums.frugalware.org" official? Firefox complains that it is "Unable to verify the identity of linuxforum.hu as a trusted site" if it attempts to open that page. I figured an https connection would be useful to log in (particularly since I'm using a wireless laptop). From zephyr83 at tin.it Wed Aug 20 05:50:42 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Wed Aug 20 06:18:52 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21f8.48ab7764@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21fd.48ab9490@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Wed, 20 August 2008 03:46 > I was a little surprised that ndiswrapper isn't in the repos as well. I tried to compile it myself and got some errors but I didn't explore it further. I don't use 64bit anything anymore, though, since the advantages of it at this point seem marginal. ndiswrapper (for wi-fi) is avaible, nspluginwrapper no! I try to install from source nspluginwrapper but without success. I installed gnash and flash with firefox WORKS!!! Again youtube! in konqueror and Opera don't works but now youtube don't show the message tha we have to install flash plugin. Why gnash isn't present in frugalware's repo? From TopBloke at operamail.com Wed Aug 20 06:36:00 2008 From: TopBloke at operamail.com (Jason) Date: Wed Aug 20 06:36:52 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <21fa.48ab7ca7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2200.48ab9f2d@forums.frugalware.org> I dont seem to get any errors surfacing etc but I am wondering if its to do with me using a seperate Partition for /usr which is also on another harddrive on its own. I was trying to install with a /root & swap on first hd & then /usr on second. I might just try to see if it works with just the /root & swap. From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 06:47:53 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Wed Aug 20 06:48:55 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <21fe.48ab974e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2201.48aba1f5@forums.frugalware.org> It could be due to the partitianing. I have ran into a bug where a boot partition was required for grub to install in the past. I'm not real sure about the problem here, though. Back with my previous post. richard wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 23:02 > eveready wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 22:43 > > I meant to add I downloaded the Latest DVD Version of Frugalware 09 rc1. > > I will have to settle for the basic setup which I had found installs but will have to add a GUI etc after. > > > Does it give any errors? I've run into a problem with trying to install the first cd. (It failed whenever I selected the kde package group.) I have submitted a bug report on this... > http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/3264 > > Does this look similar to the error you're running into? I just want to make sure it is clear that the bug report I submitted deals with the bug I ran into. I don't believe it deals with the bug you've encountered at this point. From mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net Wed Aug 20 11:03:27 2008 From: mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net (mathieu buffat) Date: Wed Aug 20 11:04:32 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: 2 issues with the latest upgrades In-Reply-To: <21f9.48ab78f6@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2202.48abddd9@forums.frugalware.org> Yes in fact I use the iwlwifi drivers include in the kernel. And I think the only way to solve the problem, is to wait an update of the kernel or make a rollback... For my DVD drive which info can I provide as an lspci does not show him... It's the one include on my laptop a DELL PRECISION M6300 and on the DELL webpage I can not find the reference. I try to find it with a liveCD From iron at frugalware.org Wed Aug 20 13:10:00 2008 From: iron at frugalware.org (Krisztian VASAS) Date: Wed Aug 20 13:10:07 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <2200.48ab9f2d@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2200.48ab9f2d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48ABFB88.2040402@frugalware.org> Jason wrote: > > I dont seem to get any errors surfacing etc but I am wondering if its to do with me using a seperate Partition for /usr which is also on another harddrive on its own. > I was trying to install with a /root & swap on first hd & then /usr on second. > I might just try to see if it works with just the /root & swap. As it was told you earlier (in the first reply), please report this bug at our Bug Tracking System here: http://bugs.frugalware.org IroNiQ -- Member of Frugalware Developer Team Web: http://www.ironiq.hu LinuxCounter: #331532 From neverdream at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 15:47:08 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Wed Aug 20 15:47:34 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware 64 bit and pluginflash In-Reply-To: <21ed.48a8ef11@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2204.48ac205b@forums.frugalware.org> Sorry, I meant nspluginwrapper 8) :lol: -- ~ ~ :wq From solidago_caesia at yahoo.fr Wed Aug 20 18:18:35 2008 From: solidago_caesia at yahoo.fr (Cassandra) Date: Wed Aug 20 18:19:23 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] cheesy problem Message-ID: <2205.48ac43d9@forums.frugalware.org> I'm trying to use the webcam software cheese. When I type cheese at the command line, the result is (cheese:6753): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_bin_add_many: assertion `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_1)' failed (cheese:6753): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_many: assertion `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element_1)' failed (cheese:6753): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_link_pads_filtered: assertion `GST_IS_BIN (parent)' failed ** ERROR **: Unable to create video save pipeline On the Arch Linux forum, there is a discussion of how this is the result of not having gstreamer installed, but I believe I have all the gstreamer plugins installed and I'm sure that I have the theora one installed. I'm never quite clear when I should report a bug or when I should ask for help. From ryuo at frugalware.org Thu Aug 21 07:37:13 2008 From: ryuo at frugalware.org (James Buren) Date: Thu Aug 21 07:37:15 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] 2 issues with the latest upgrades In-Reply-To: <21f2.48aaa649@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21f2.48aaa649@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <60879.72.128.13.245.1219297033.squirrel@webmail.frugalware.org> > > > hello all, > > Here's 2 problem I meet with my fresh upgrade on my DELL PRECISION M6300: > -1st: wifi problem, my Ipw 4965 connect and disconnect less than 1 minute > after without any log problem.I have to down then up the connection to get > another minute of connection and so on... It seems that a bug has been > reported with the latest kernel. > -2nd: My DVD does not work although all liveCD boots fine on it. > No pb with USB key or external USB hardware (HDD or cam).I saw a bug was > alsa reported but even with the udev package refrshed the problem stay.o > get > > Hence I wonder how I can come back on the previous state of frugalware (a > kind of rollback) at least for the kernel to get the wifi module work that > is my main issue actually. > > Thanks in advance > > > _______________________________________________ > Frugalware-forums mailing list > Frugalware-forums@frugalware.org > http://frugalware.org/mailman/listinfo/frugalware-forums > First, this really isn't the proper place to report issues. Please report to BTS. From gafran at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 12:57:01 2008 From: gafran at gmail.com (Franco) Date: Thu Aug 21 12:57:48 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] FW install Message-ID: <2207.48ad49fc@forums.frugalware.org> Hi all. What if i install FW using just the first DVD?Does it work all the same?Thanx. From mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net Thu Aug 21 14:42:47 2008 From: mathieu.buffat at cegetel.net (mathieu buffat) Date: Thu Aug 21 14:43:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: 2 issues with the latest upgrades In-Reply-To: <60879.72.128.13.245.1219297033.squirrel@webmail.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2208.48ad62c5@forums.frugalware.org> Hello, I do not report in bug section because they are already identified, My initial question was : "Hence I wonder how I can come back on the previous state of frugalware (a kind of rollback) at least for the kernel to get the wifi module work that is my main issue actually." Regards From neverdream at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 15:42:40 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Thu Aug 21 15:43:30 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: FW install In-Reply-To: <2207.48ad49fc@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2209.48ad70cf@forums.frugalware.org> Yes. -- ~ ~ :wq From TopBloke at operamail.com Fri Aug 22 05:57:57 2008 From: TopBloke at operamail.com (Jason) Date: Fri Aug 22 05:58:47 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Cant Install Using expert mode In-Reply-To: <48ABFB88.2040402@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <220a.48ae3943@forums.frugalware.org> I have placed a Bug Report at Site. ThankYou From littleb2005 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Aug 22 09:14:14 2008 From: littleb2005 at blueyonder.co.uk (littleb) Date: Fri Aug 22 09:15:00 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Frugalware Current Iso Message-ID: <220b.48ae6744@forums.frugalware.org> Why does the frugalware current net-iso go to frugalware testing during install? From littleb2005 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Aug 22 10:58:16 2008 From: littleb2005 at blueyonder.co.uk (littleb) Date: Fri Aug 22 10:58:53 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: https://forums.frugalware.org In-Reply-To: <21ff.48ab991d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <220c.48ae7fa6@forums.frugalware.org> highly doubt beside i get a 404 error with that link From iron at frugalware.org Fri Aug 22 11:17:48 2008 From: iron at frugalware.org (Krisztian VASAS) Date: Fri Aug 22 11:18:00 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] https://forums.frugalware.org In-Reply-To: <21ff.48ab991d@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21ff.48ab991d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48AE843C.5000505@frugalware.org> richard wrote: > > Is "https://forums.frugalware.org" official? linuxforum.hu has a self signed certificate and in ff3 the handling of the certificates is changed. That's why you see this "error". > I figured an https connection would be useful to log in (particularly since I'm using a wireless laptop). file a feature request about this in our BTS: http://bugs.frugalware.org IroNiQ -- Member of Frugalware Developer Team Web: http://ironiq.hu/ From zephyr83 at tin.it Fri Aug 22 20:03:52 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Fri Aug 22 20:04:22 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: https://forums.frugalware.org In-Reply-To: <21ff.48ab991d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <220e.48aeff87@forums.frugalware.org> richard wrote on Wed, 20 August 2008 06:10 > Is "https://forums.frugalware.org" official? > > Firefox complains that it is "Unable to verify the identity of linuxforum.hu as a trusted site" if it attempts to open that page. > > I figured an https connection would be useful to log in (particularly since I'm using a wireless laptop). Again Opera littleb2005 wrote on Fri, 22 August 2008 10:58 > highly doubt beside i get a 404 error with that link Idem From devil505linux at gmail.com Sun Aug 24 14:20:20 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sun Aug 24 14:21:25 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware Stickers Message-ID: <220f.48b15202@forums.frugalware.org> You can buy these stickers (page of 30 stickers) here: http://www.ilv-store.com/goodies_31_stickers-book__stick125.html :p -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From devil505linux at gmail.com Sun Aug 24 15:02:57 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sun Aug 24 15:03:40 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware Stickers Message-ID: <2210.48b15c01@forums.frugalware.org> My new stickers: :twisted: -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Aug 25 04:27:08 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon Aug 25 04:27:10 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Does this distro handle settings without user involve? In-Reply-To: <21e9.48a78139@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21e9.48a78139@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080825022708.GS23800@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 03:39:06AM +0200, Allison wrote: > Unless you were totally destroying and crucifying the arch guys You meant that we contributed back a lot (pacman), then stopped doing so; and this counts as destroying? I don't think so. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you mean "single desktop" as in "only KDE is supported, thing else", then you are probably wrong, all what you mention (and GNOME and many other small wms as well) is supported. > Well, there we are. Gabriel C says no KDE4 in Frugalware until 1.0 - > presumably March 2009. Discussion over, I guess. Message received, > very clearly. Actually I think he said there will be no KDE4 in Frugalware before 0.9. Also, "in Frugalware" does not mean that there is no "work in progress" repo for it, see: http://ftp.frugalware.org/pub/other/people/crazy/playground/frugalware-i686 And of course: 1) It probably makes sense to see who do you flame off, crazy has several commits in kde4 (he was even offered to have direct commit rights), probably because he is working on to make it better, not because he just stands and flames it, so that he can still not package it while sipping a mojito at the branch. ;) 2) Making him angry can't result in anything good. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080825/779589a5/attachment.sig From devil505linux at gmail.com Mon Aug 25 10:21:45 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Mon Aug 25 10:22:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] wireless usb mini-mouse problem Message-ID: <2215.48b26b91@forums.frugalware.org> Hi I bought a mini-mouse usb wireless for my netbook: http://www.mad-x.fr/produits/prod.php?refprod=51 but it doesn't work :( dmesg: usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: HID 062a:0000 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/input/input11 input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [HID 062a:0000] on usb-0000:00:04.0-2 lsusb Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Bus 003 Device 002: ID 5986:0102 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Bus 002 Device 004: ID 062a:0000 Creative Labs Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 le kernel d?raille c'est pas une creative labs :d cat /proc/bus/input/devices I: Bus=0003 Vendor=062a Product=0000 Version=0110 N: Name="HID 062a:0000" P: Phys=usb-0000:00:04.0-2/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/input/input11 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse2 event8 B: EV=17 B: KEY=1f0000 0 0 0 0 B: REL=103 B: MSC=10 dans mon xorg.conf j'ai mis cette section: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Wireless Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "Device" "usb-0000:00:04.0-2/input0" Option "Name" "062a:0000" Option "AlwaysCore" EndSection (Identifier "Wireless Mouse" is in ServerLayout section of course) I add this section in my xorg.conf from a thread in ubuntu forums but I think it's not correct :/ Any ideas ? :) -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Mon Aug 25 10:45:18 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Mon Aug 25 10:46:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <20080825024411.GT23800@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2216.48b27116@forums.frugalware.org> First of all, please understand that I *never* attempted to "flame" anyone. What I was trying to do was to enthuse someone, anyone, amongst the Frugalware developers to get involved in KDE4. Flaming is, I believe, a total waste of time and misplaced emotion. When I asked about a "single desktop" distro, I was just checking that you did intend to continue to support a wide range of desktops, and I am glad to hear that you do. I never spoke about server support. That did not come from anything I wrote. What Gabriel C actually said was: "In short 0.9 won't have KDE4.X , most probably 1.X". Very different from your "no KDE4 in Frugalware before 0.9". Which is it? It really does make a big difference. I am glad to hear about the "work in progress" repo. A pity that nobody mentioned it earlier. Is it a usable KDE4.1? If so, how about a How-to? I regret that I am unable to understand the first part about crazy. (Literally, I mean, I can't understand the English - this is no flame!) As for making him angry, I do not think I have even replied to any of his messages on this subject. Certainly not deliberately. If I have, at any stage, said something which appears to contradict something he has said earlier, it must be because we hold different views about something. This is entirely possible, but I would hope that it would not make him "angry". Indeed, I don't want to make anyone angry. I just want to see Frugalware include the current live version of KDE, which is 4.1, according to the KDE web site. Continued support for 3.5.9 has been promised for a while, but 4.1 is the current version. And no amount of out-of-date pronouncements from anyone (about "unstable" and "pre-alpha") can change that. So, for positively the last time from me, could we please all stop squabbling about this, and get on with implementing KDE4 in Frugalware? Sadly, I am writing this using openSUSE. Using KDE4.1. Regards -- Bob From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Aug 25 14:29:20 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon Aug 25 14:29:21 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <2216.48b27116@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080825024411.GT23800@genesis.frugalware.org> <2216.48b27116@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080825122920.GZ23800@genesis.frugalware.org> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:45:18AM +0200, Bob Waddington wrote: > So, for positively the last time from me, could we please all stop > squabbling about this, and get on with implementing KDE4 in > Frugalware? It will happen. But we are not in a rush. > Sadly, I am writing this using openSUSE. Using KDE4.1. That's OK. We are not the distro where you can install the kernel v2.6.27-rc4-123-gd3ee1b4 from package, or where the default KDE version is the latest KDE4 release - yet (in this early stage of KDE4's life). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080825/dd6bcc55/attachment.sig From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Aug 25 14:31:28 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon Aug 25 14:31:30 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Frugalware Current Iso In-Reply-To: <220b.48ae6744@forums.frugalware.org> References: <220b.48ae6744@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080825123128.GA23800@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:14:14AM +0200, littleb wrote: > Why does the frugalware current net-iso go to frugalware testing during install? That is in fact on-purpose. Installing -current from the network directly is always tricky, as tmp breakages can always happen in -current, making the installation impossible. You can of course still just say "I want to use a custom mirror", then replace the -testing suffix with -current and you can install directly from -current. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080825/e9f41877/attachment.sig From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 06:00:58 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Wed Aug 27 06:03:46 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <21bb.4893ee64@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2219.48b4d175@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Sat, 02 August 2008 00:19 > The Frugalware source code is kept in an online git repository. You can access the web interface here. Since the source code is kept in a git repository, I thought that perhaps git would provide a way to easily access the sources by name. I installed the git package to test this theory (I really don't know much about git). After being prompted for a password a few times while trying to see if the git package could do what I was hoping it could, I decided that my previous thoughts on it were incorrect. Needless to say, I've already uninstalled the git package. Just in case I missed something, is there a way to use the git package to get sources from the git repository without needed a password, or are the tools provided by the git package strictly for the developers using the git repository in question? From priyankmg at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 08:09:22 2008 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Wed Aug 27 08:11:56 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <2219.48b4d175@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <221a.48b4ef8f@forums.frugalware.org> Btw, how are you trying to access the repository ? You might want to read http://wiki.frugalware.org/Git_setup to know more about how to use git. -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From neverdream at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 05:05:10 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Thu Aug 28 13:25:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <21ba.48935018@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <221c.48b615e3@forums.frugalware.org> iirc the command to get the source tree is git clone git://git.frugalware.org/pub/frugalware/frugalware-current but at the time that I'm writing this, the git repo seems to be offline. You can also use repoman(1) to get the FST. Also, I haven't tried this one, but according to the manpage it should work: makepkg -l for a single package. -- ~ ~ :wq From richardg.nw at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 05:52:02 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Thu Aug 28 13:25:41 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <221c.48b615e3@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <221d.48b620dd@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Wed, 27 August 2008 22:05 > iirc the command to get the source tree is git clone git://git.frugalware.org/pub/frugalware/frugalware-current but at the time that I'm writing this, the git repo seems to be offline. You can also use repoman(1) to get the FST. Also, I haven't tried this one, but according to the manpage it should work: makepkg -l for a single package. Maybe I wasn't wrong about git's purpose (although I wasn't positive about what git was used for to begin with). After reading your post, I think I just really didn't know what I was doing with git. The makepkg -l looks like exactly what I was looking for, thanks. I'm trying to make a custom live cd for college with needed packages preinstalled. Such a command should theoretically help out with downloading the sources for such a cd. From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 19:24:31 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Thu Aug 28 13:25:41 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <221a.48b4ef8f@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <221b.48b58dce@forums.frugalware.org> >From the limited information I gathered, I thought git-clone may enable me to download the source from the repository, but - due to the password prompts that came up - I determined that I most likely misunderstood its purpose after experimenting with it a few times. What I was tying to do, was to find a command that could be combined with the output of 'pacman-g2 -Q' to download the source of all installed programs. From nix.or.die at googlemail.com Thu Aug 28 20:25:58 2008 From: nix.or.die at googlemail.com (Gabriel C) Date: Thu Aug 28 20:29:47 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Distribution In-Reply-To: <221d.48b620dd@forums.frugalware.org> References: <221d.48b620dd@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48B6EDB6.6090406@frugalware.org> richard wrote: > > groovy2shoes wrote on Wed, 27 August 2008 22:05 >> iirc the command to get the source tree is git clone git://git.frugalware.org/pub/frugalware/frugalware-current but at the time that I'm writing this, the git repo seems to be offline. You can also use repoman(1) to get the FST. Also, I haven't tried this one, but according to the manpage it should work: makepkg -l for a single package. > > > Maybe I wasn't wrong about git's purpose (although I wasn't positive about what git was used for to begin with). After reading your post, I think I just really didn't know what I was doing with git. > > The makepkg -l looks like exactly what I was looking for, thanks. I'm trying to make a custom live cd for college with needed packages preinstalled. Such a command should theoretically help out with downloading the sources for such a cd. Then you probably want to use our fwlive repo and start hacking there ?:) git clone git://git.frugalware.org/pub/other/fwlive