From solidago_caesia at yahoo.fr Tue Jul 8 21:04:54 2008 From: solidago_caesia at yahoo.fr (Cassandra) Date: Tue Jul 8 21:05:19 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] iwl3945 Message-ID: <217b.4873ba54@forums.frugalware.org> Since the release announcement stated, that Solaria pre 2 "replaced the ipw wireless drivers with the newer iwl ones", I thought I'd give it a try on my laptop. My laptop comes with the Intel wireless 3945. I downloaded frugalware-current/iwlwifi-3945-ucode package, but my I still can't get my wireless to work. It will scan and find some wireless sources, but it will not connect. I got this error message after entering the command "iwconfig wlan0": Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 22 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20. Some things may be broken... The command "lsmod | grep 3945" yields, iwl3945 80988 0 mac80211 123020 1 iwl3945 I would also like to add some excellent news to my question. For the first time, I'm able to read the frugalware.org homepage from my frugalware installation on my computer. I had to use other distros to read the frugalware homepage. This has been an ongoing problem for over a year. Will I need to install Solaria pre 2 on my desktop on which I have Solaria pre 1 to be able to read the frugalware homepage or will pacman update my desktop? Thanks! From vmiklos at frugalware.org Tue Jul 8 22:39:31 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Tue Jul 8 22:39:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: usb stick! In-Reply-To: <2178.486918ec@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080630150725.GM4729@genesis.frugalware.org> <2178.486918ec@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080708203931.GG10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:33:32PM +0200, gigi wrote: > already in group... do you have any /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules.pacnew or similar .pacnew files under /etc/udev/rules.d? it really works for me out of the box.. :S -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080708/23821993/attachment.sig From vmiklos at frugalware.org Tue Jul 8 22:42:20 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Tue Jul 8 22:42:22 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] iwl3945 In-Reply-To: <217b.4873ba54@forums.frugalware.org> References: <217b.4873ba54@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080708204220.GH10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:04:54PM +0200, Cassandra wrote: > Since the release announcement stated, that Solaria pre 2 "replaced > the ipw wireless drivers with the newer iwl ones", I thought I'd give > it a try on my laptop. My laptop comes with the Intel wireless 3945. > I downloaded frugalware-current/iwlwifi-3945-ucode package, but my I > still can't get my wireless to work. It will scan and find some > wireless sources, but it will not connect. > > I got this error message after entering the command "iwconfig wlan0": > > Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 22 > of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20. > Some things may be broken... that's ok. the next pre-release of wireless_tools silences this warning, but we do not want to package unstable versions. > The command "lsmod | grep 3945" yields, > > iwl3945 80988 0 > mac80211 123020 1 iwl3945 sounds ok. did you reload (rmmod && modprobe) the kernel module after you installed the firmware? > I would also like to add some excellent news to my question. For the > first time, I'm able to read the frugalware.org homepage from my > frugalware installation on my computer. I had to use other distros to > read the frugalware homepage. This has been an ongoing problem for > over a year. nice! to be honest i don't know any change on our side.. ;) > Will I need to install Solaria pre 2 on my desktop on > which I have Solaria pre 1 to be able to read the frugalware homepage > or will pacman update my desktop? 'pacman-g2 -Syu' as root will do it for you. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080708/d26e91ae/attachment.sig From solidago_caesia at yahoo.fr Wed Jul 9 00:54:06 2008 From: solidago_caesia at yahoo.fr (Cassandra) Date: Wed Jul 9 00:54:33 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: iwl3945 In-Reply-To: <20080708204220.GH10347@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <217e.4873f00c@forums.frugalware.org> Thanks, Miklos. I now have wireless and can use Frugalware on my laptop. Yeah!! On the other hand, I spoke too soon about my internet problem with http://frugalware.org. Frugalware on my laptop but not my desktop is able to view http://frugalware.org. My problem seems to be some weird product of computer and distro. Several Linux distros don't work with http://frugalware.org or when I try to add-on for Mozilla Firefox. Zenwalk Linux does work as do the horrid M$ OS. Also, OpenBSD fails to load frugalware.org on my desktop. My experience with this is quite consistent, yet I get no answers on the problem. I've posted to kerneltrap.org about it--where I think the question belongs. (Frugalware developers should probably spend their time on frugalware issues.) I believe the problem is in the Linux kernel itself--either something to do with a Gigabyte motherboard or an AMD processor. I just like to document the problem from time to time in the hopes that someone knowledgeable will look into it. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Jul 9 01:05:36 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Jul 9 01:05:38 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: iwl3945 In-Reply-To: <217e.4873f00c@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080708204220.GH10347@genesis.frugalware.org> <217e.4873f00c@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080708230536.GK10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:54:06AM +0200, Cassandra wrote: > On the other hand, I spoke too soon about my internet problem with > http://frugalware.org. Frugalware on my laptop but not my desktop is > able to view http://frugalware.org. My problem seems to be some weird > product of computer and distro. Several Linux distros don't work with > http://frugalware.org or when I try to add-on for Mozilla Firefox. > Zenwalk Linux does work as do the horrid M$ OS. Also, OpenBSD fails > to load frugalware.org on my desktop. My experience with this is > quite consistent, yet I get no answers on the problem. I've posted to > kerneltrap.org about it--where I think the question belongs. > (Frugalware developers should probably spend their time on frugalware > issues.) I believe the problem is in the Linux kernel itself--either > something to do with a Gigabyte motherboard or an AMD processor. I > just like to document the problem from time to time in the hopes that > someone knowledgeable will look into it. Isn't this related to: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=108851542715133&w=2 ? In short, a possible workaround: sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_default_win_scale=0 related LWN article: http://lwn.net/Articles/91976/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Jul 9 09:37:17 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Jul 9 09:37:20 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: iwl3945 In-Reply-To: <2180.4874219e@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080708230536.GK10347@genesis.frugalware.org> <2180.4874219e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080709073717.GM10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 04:25:37AM +0200, Cassandra wrote: > I wonder how many other people have experienced this problem with > http://frugalware.org. Frugalware is such a great distro, but > something this silly could discourage people from trying it out. i set net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling to 0 in /etc/sysctl.conf on the server, could you check if anything changed? thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <2182.4874a8b7@forums.frugalware.org> References: <214b.48511265@forums.frugalware.org> <2182.4874a8b7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080709135815.GS10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:02:00PM +0200, gigi wrote: > another strange thing is that when kde asks to mount the partitions if > i say yes to only one of the two, they are all mounted anyway... ok, this is something that should not happen. do you care to report it at http://bugs.frugalware.org ? thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080709/481cfabc/attachment.sig From bcjdav at tin.it Wed Jul 9 16:47:31 2008 From: bcjdav at tin.it (gigi) Date: Wed Jul 9 16:47:50 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: usb stick! In-Reply-To: <214b.48511265@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2184.4874cf83@forums.frugalware.org> i don't want to overload fbt. i think my fw is too old (coming from 0.4)... when i have time i'll try a fresh installation and i'll see. thanks From vmiklos at frugalware.org Thu Jul 10 15:38:31 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Thu Jul 10 15:38:34 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: usb stick! In-Reply-To: <2184.4874cf83@forums.frugalware.org> References: <214b.48511265@forums.frugalware.org> <2184.4874cf83@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080710133831.GX10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 04:47:31PM +0200, gigi wrote: > i don't want to overload fbt. > i think my fw is too old (coming from 0.4)... > when i have time i'll try a fresh installation and i'll see. ok, as you want. my main box is upgraded since 0.2 and i don't have this issue, but maybe you messed up something over the time ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From vmiklos at frugalware.org Fri Jul 11 00:32:11 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Fri Jul 11 00:32:12 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies In-Reply-To: <2186.48768a8d@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2186.48768a8d@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080710223211.GA10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:17:50AM +0200, Marietto wrote: > Why kde-i18n-it (or other languages) don't depend on dekbase??? hey, calm down :) this is not the right place to report bugs. please write up a task at http://bugs.frugalware.org and we'll fix the issue. (and yes, i think they could depend on kdebase (not dekbase)) thanks -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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During installation I installed only base package group. After booting up I installed x11 and kde package group. I also installed gfpm,fun separately. Now the issues I am facing are: 1) The grub doesn't have the frugalware theme. How can I get that what all package groups I have to install. What all package groups are recomended for a standard kde workstation. 2) I can't find the English dictionary or eclipse or netbeans package in the stable repo. 3) If i enable both stable and current repo in gfpm will I get a rolling release like archlinux. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Fri Jul 11 19:24:54 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Fri Jul 11 19:24:56 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080711172454.GF10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:11:35PM +0200, Jaideep Das wrote: > 1) The grub doesn't have the frugalware theme. How can I get that what > all package groups I have to install. What all package groups are > recomended for a standard kde workstation. first, welcome! i guess the grub frugalware theme (package name: grub-theme-frugalware) is independent from kde :) you can have a look at available groups via: pacman -Sg if you have enough disk space, then probably pacman -S x11 xapps kde is the best option. if you want to keep minimal, just install kdebase. > 2) I can't find the English dictionary or eclipse or netbeans package in the stable repo. use the package search: pacman -S aspell6-en, pacman -S eclipse, pacman -S netbeans :) > 3) If i enable both stable and current repo in gfpm will I get a rolling release don't do that. enable stable _or_ current. you can enable both, but then you are on your own as it's unsupported. http://frugalware.org/docs/about#_long if you want new versions on a daily basis (and not only twice a year), then use current. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When I search for eclipse it gives no such package error. pacman -Sy eclipse :: Synchronizing package databases... frugalware is up to date error: could not add target 'eclipse': not found in sync db pacman -Ss eclipse frugalware/ant-eclipse-ecj 3.3.1.1-1 (devel-extra) Ant Compiler Adapter for Eclipse Java Compiler frugalware/ecj 3.3.1.1-1 (devel-extra) Ecj is the Java bytecode compiler of the Eclipse Project. Netbeans version is old version 5. I am using x86_64 repo, it this the cause. From jaideep.das at gmx.com Fri Jul 11 19:50:07 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Fri Jul 11 19:50:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <218c.48779d4f@forums.frugalware.org> Is upgrading to new release is safe in frugalware. Like when I upgrade to 0.9 from 0.8 release. I am so habituated to rolling release of archlinux that release upgrade makes me worry of possible system failure. :( From jaideep.das at gmx.com Fri Jul 11 20:15:27 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Fri Jul 11 20:16:19 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Request packages here... In-Reply-To: <2129.4841ba08@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <218d.4877a33f@forums.frugalware.org> This is my list for x86_64 packages: 1) Eclipse(Only i686 version available). 2) eclipse-pydev(http://pydev.sourceforge.net/) 3) Aptana eclipse plugin(http://aptana.com/products#plugins) From neverdream at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 20:39:38 2008 From: neverdream at gmail.com (Cory) Date: Fri Jul 11 20:40:25 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <218e.4877a8ea@forums.frugalware.org> The -current branch is a "rolling release." You can enable it in /etc/pacman-g2.conf :) -- ~ ~ :wq From crazy at frugalware.org Fri Jul 11 21:22:52 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Fri Jul 11 21:25:57 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies In-Reply-To: <20080710223211.GA10347@genesis.frugalware.org> References: <2186.48768a8d@forums.frugalware.org> <20080710223211.GA10347@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <4877B30C.7090006@frugalware.org> Miklos Vajna wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:17:50AM +0200, Marietto wrote: >> Why kde-i18n-it (or other languages) don't depend on dekbase??? > > hey, calm down :) > > this is not the right place to report bugs. please write up a task at > http://bugs.frugalware.org and we'll fix the issue. > > (and yes, i think they could depend on kdebase (not dekbase)) And why ? All you need is kdelibs to build the lang packages you could add all kind kde packages as rodepends which: 1) not needed at all 2) will open again the 'don't pull kde when installing some locale-extra group' bug 3) doesn't make any sense since the packages have to rodepends() on the language- package when LANG- is used , which again is not possible from packaging point of view. All this lang stuff has to be done on install , meaning is the installer job to get the right language packages when you install in any other language as english. From detto-brumm at freenet.de Fri Jul 11 22:38:01 2008 From: detto-brumm at freenet.de (detto) Date: Fri Jul 11 22:38:48 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Frugalware needs better dependencies In-Reply-To: <4877B30C.7090006@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2190.4877c4a8@forums.frugalware.org> crazy wrote on Fri, 11 July 2008 21:22 > And why ? All you need is kdelibs to build the lang packages > you could add all kind kde packages as rodepends which: > > 1) not needed at all > 2) will open again the 'don't pull kde when installing some locale-extra group' bug > 3) doesn't make any sense since the packages have to rodepends() on the language- > package when LANG- is used , which again is not possible from packaging point of view. > All this lang stuff has to be done on install , meaning is the installer job to get the > right language packages when you install in any other language as english. 1) sure it's needed: installing a language-pack should have a sense. first is that it will translate your desired apps/packages, second is that you can just pick your "fookpg-barlanguage"-package and are off to go. 8) 2) so this bug hasn't been fixed but only avoided? :? 3) i'm not right sure if i understood that. :roll: From richardg.nw at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 23:33:17 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Fri Jul 11 23:34:02 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <218e.4877a8ea@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2191.4877d19c@forums.frugalware.org> groovy2shoes wrote on Fri, 11 July 2008 13:39 > The -current branch is a "rolling release." You can enable it in /etc/pacman-g2.conf :) I believe I may recall reading in another topic that using both stable and current at once isn't supported, so I'd recommend upgrading completely to current if one wishes to use that repository. I could be wrong about that, though. If I am, someone please correct me. From richardg.nw at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 23:45:12 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Fri Jul 11 23:45:39 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Missing Package? Message-ID: <2192.4877d467@forums.frugalware.org> I believe I may be missing one package or another in my Frugalware 0.8 installation since certain applications are missing some functionality. One example is IDLE, the Python Programming Language's IDE. Namely, the text input area doesn't seem to respond to my mouse's left click. Also it seems that I cannot use my mouse to highlight my code. This makes working with it much more difficult than it should be. Furthermore, when installing or updating with Gfpm, the close button on the status window doesn't work. I have to instead close the status window with the 'X' box after the install or upgrade is finished. If anyone knows the cause of this behavior, I would be happy for their input. I don't think this may necessarily be bug related since I don't recall this problem on another computer. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat Jul 12 03:15:24 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat Jul 12 03:15:26 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2191.4877d19c@forums.frugalware.org> References: <218e.4877a8ea@forums.frugalware.org> <2191.4877d19c@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080712011524.GN10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:33:17PM +0200, richard wrote: > I believe I may recall reading in another topic that using both stable > and current at once isn't supported, so I'd recommend upgrading > completely to current if one wishes to use that repository. I could > be wrong about that, though. If I am, someone please correct me. no, you are right. you are on your own if you randomly mix repos. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In repo > there is dictionary for openoffice for de,es,hu languages but not > english. those are extra dictionaries, but many is included by default: $ pacman -Ql -p frugalware-x86_64/openoffice.org-2.4.1-1-x86_64.fpm |grep dict/.*en openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/README_en_GB.txt openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/README_en_ZA.txt openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/WordNet_license.txt openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/en_GB.aff openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/en_GB.dic openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/en_US.aff openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/en_US.dic openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/en_ZA.aff openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/en_ZA.dic openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/hyph_en_GB.dic openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/hyph_en_US.dic openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/th_cs_CZ_license.txt openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/th_en_US_v2.dat openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/th_en_US_v2.idx openoffice.org usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/dict/ooo/th_sk_SK_license.txt just a guess: can you try installing hunspell? afaik it's not needed for all languages, but you can give it a try, if that helps then this is a dependency problem. > > When I search for eclipse it gives no such package error. > pacman -Sy eclipse > :: Synchronizing package databases... > frugalware is up to date > error: could not add target 'eclipse': not found in sync db > > pacman -Ss eclipse > frugalware/ant-eclipse-ecj 3.3.1.1-1 (devel-extra) > Ant Compiler Adapter for Eclipse Java Compiler > frugalware/ecj 3.3.1.1-1 (devel-extra) > Ecj is the Java bytecode compiler of the Eclipse Project. > > > Netbeans version is old version 5. > > I am using x86_64 repo, it this the cause. ah, that's an important info. and yes, eclipse on x86_64 seem to be not yet available. netbeans is there in current: netbeans-6.0.1-1-x86_64 stable was 5.x and it will not be upgraded, since we just push security or major bugfixes. feel free to open a feature request for eclipse-x86_64, then we can try build it for x86_64 as well. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From priyankmg at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 07:38:10 2008 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Sat Jul 12 07:38:35 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Missing Package? In-Reply-To: <2192.4877d467@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2197.48784342@forums.frugalware.org> richard wrote on Sat, 12 July 2008 03:15 > Furthermore, when installing or updating with Gfpm, the close button on the status window doesn't work. I have to instead close the status window with the 'X' box after the install or upgrade is finished. It's a known issue with GFpm. It'll be fixed in the next gfpm release. -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From jaideep.das at gmx.com Sat Jul 12 09:30:30 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Sat Jul 12 09:31:30 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2198.48785d95@forums.frugalware.org> I added a feature request to http://bugs.frugalware.org/ But they closed it saying new package cannot be added to stable branch. A very convenient answer. From jaideep.das at gmx.com Sat Jul 12 10:27:05 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Sat Jul 12 10:27:53 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2199.48786ad8@forums.frugalware.org> I reinstall the openoffice package but still same problem. I also noticed that the tools>language>thesaurus option is disable. This is an issue with the package i think. From ryuo at frugalware.org Sat Jul 12 10:44:09 2008 From: ryuo at frugalware.org (James Buren) Date: Sat Jul 12 10:45:02 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <219a.48786ed9@forums.frugalware.org> Quote: > I added a feature request to http://bugs.frugalware.org/ for eclipse and some plugins. > But they closed it saying new package cannot be added to stable branch. > > A very convenient answer. Well what do you expect? Our policy is the only updates stable sees are security fixes really. We only update it with a new branch every 6 months. Current eventually gets woven into the next stable release. From jaideep.das at gmx.com Sat Jul 12 11:29:18 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Sat Jul 12 11:30:07 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <219b.4878796e@forums.frugalware.org> Tell me something if you forget to include a package which is important. You will wait 6 months when the new release is out to add it. Eclipse is there in i686 repo but not in x86_64 isn't it strange. Eclipse is not just another application its one of the most used development IDE. So your argument makes no sense. From ryuo at frugalware.org Sat Jul 12 11:36:33 2008 From: ryuo at frugalware.org (James Buren) Date: Sat Jul 12 11:37:16 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <219c.48787b21@forums.frugalware.org> You act like its my fault or something. Talk to the maintainer of it. From devil505linux at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 13:38:55 2008 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sat Jul 12 13:39:46 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <219b.4878796e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <219d.487897ce@forums.frugalware.org> jaideep_jdof wrote on Sat, 12 July 2008 11:29 > Eclipse is there in i686 repo but not in x86_64 isn't it strange. archs=('i686' '!x86_64') It seems it was disabled. You should ask his maintainer why x86_64 was disabled like ryuo said. :) -- http://frugalware-fr.tuxfamily.org/ From jaideep.das at gmx.com Sat Jul 12 20:43:20 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Sat Jul 12 20:44:04 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <2189.48779446@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <219e.4878fb47@forums.frugalware.org> I have moved back to archlinux. These small issues matters a lot to me when it comes to desktop experience. I might reconsider frugal in the future but not now. Its too buggy. Starting from the installer to config utils.example: 1)Installer shows partition format as ext3 even if i select xfs or ext2. 2)Xconfig didn't create x config file. 3)grubconfig caused an segfault and erased my menu.list. From jaideep.das at gmx.com Sat Jul 12 20:48:38 2008 From: jaideep.das at gmx.com (Jaideep Das) Date: Sat Jul 12 20:49:28 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: From arch to frugal, need help In-Reply-To: <219c.48787b21@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <219f.4878fc7b@forums.frugalware.org> ryuo wrote on Sat, 12 July 2008 05:36 > You act like its my fault or something. Talk to the maintainer of it. ryuo sorry if i was rude. vmiklos thanks you were very help ful. From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 00:06:05 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Wed Jul 16 00:06:49 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Missing Package? In-Reply-To: <2192.4877d467@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21a0.487d1f4c@forums.frugalware.org> I'd like to report that I now believe the IDLE problem to be a bug between the Python and TK packages. I have already submitted a bug report. From joel.berglund at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 18:42:09 2008 From: joel.berglund at gmail.com (joel) Date: Wed Jul 16 18:42:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Call for tips and tricks! Message-ID: <21a1.487e24df@forums.frugalware.org> The http://frugalware.org/newsletter/27 requested new tips and tricks so I decided to revive this thread! I just never managed to remember how to run GUIs as root (you cli gurus read no further). What the name of that Xauth-something-file to copy to roots folder? I got feed up the zillionth time I had to look it up and made an alias in roots .bashrc (that is /root/.bashrc): alias cpx="cp /home/USER/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority" cpx will now copy the right file to the right place. (Is this dangerous in any way?) oh, and while you are editing roots .bashrc-file add this: alias rm="rm -i" to avoid deleting files unintentionally. Nothing new or special but it helped me, now tell me your tips and tricks! From roriogm at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 14:24:12 2008 From: roriogm at gmail.com (Jakub) Date: Sat Jul 19 14:24:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] bluez, pan and n70 Message-ID: <21a4.4881dceb@forums.frugalware.org> Hi! For couple of days I've been trying to allow my n70 mobile to access the internet via a bluetooth connection. I've tried many suggested ways to do that, but non seems to work on frugalware :( First problem is that, the latest bluez-utils doesn't include the pand:/ I've recompiled it to include the demons I needed, but still I can't make the things work. The most complete howto I got is http://www.howtoforge.com/bluetooth_pand_debian_etch. But id doesn't work:P Has anyone found a way to set up a pan? Any help will do;) From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Jul 21 15:10:38 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon Jul 21 15:10:41 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] bluez, pan and n70 In-Reply-To: <21a4.4881dceb@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21a4.4881dceb@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080721131038.GW10347@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Jakub wrote: > First problem is that, the latest bluez-utils doesn't include the > pand:/ That's a bug. bluez-utils-3.35-2-i686 should include pand again. Thanks for reporting the issue. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As a side note, even if there isn't any inherent security issue with logging directly into the text-based interface as root, it still may be a good idea to refrain from it for the sake of practicing - what some would call - good habits. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Jul 23 10:10:07 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Jul 23 10:10:10 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Logging in as root In-Reply-To: <21a6.4886aea1@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21a6.4886aea1@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080723081007.GD32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:08:04AM +0200, richard wrote: > However, I was thinking about whether or not it would be considered > 'secure' to log directly into the text-based interface as root. It > seems to me that there isn't any real problem with such a log-in (as > long as one doesn't run seemingly random things with it). Would > anyone else care to comment on this issue? It's secure, just we are humans and humans do mistakes. So you log in as a user, do mistakes and when you would break your system, you get a "permission denied". Now log in as root, do a mistake and you can easily break your system. A good example is: one of my friends used to edit kdmrc to allow logging in as root. One day he accidently rm -rf'd /var; given that /var/lib/pacman-g2 contains the package database, he needed to do a reinstall. Now he logs in as a user... ;-) So as long as you know what you are doing, just edit kdmrc, gdmrc or whatever config and do it. But it's disabled by default on purpose, keep in mind. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From richardg.nw at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 19:49:22 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Wed Jul 23 19:50:16 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Logging in as root In-Reply-To: <21a6.4886aea1@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21a9.48876f20@forums.frugalware.org> Thanks for the replies. So the point with root seems to be to try to limit what is running as root. From my own knowledge and the replies in this thread, I would have to say the two main reasons would be software bugs and that humans make mistakes. Both reasons seems to verify why one shouldn't log directly into the GUI as root. First, the number of root-owned processes started by such a login would increase the chance of a software bug damaging the system. Second, the chance of the user accidentally damaging the system would significantly increase. As for directly logging into the text-based interface (what one gets if the do something like CTRL+ALT+F1) as root. Only the chance of the user accidentally damaging the system seems to increase. (I believe such a login only results in one additional root-owned process - much like with su). So this seems to verify the notion of only using su and sudo to gain root privileges. However, if one wishes to login solely just to configure the system, logging in through a text-based interface (like on CTRL+ALT+F1) as root should be perfectly secure. Feel free to comment on this further. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed Jul 23 21:02:13 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed Jul 23 21:02:16 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Logging in as root In-Reply-To: <21a9.48876f20@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21a6.4886aea1@forums.frugalware.org> <21a9.48876f20@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080723190213.GL32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 07:49:22PM +0200, richard wrote: > So this seems to verify the notion of only using su and sudo to gain > root privileges. However, if one wishes to login solely just to > configure the system, logging in through a text-based interface (like > on CTRL+ALT+F1) as root should be perfectly secure. Correct. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080723/7a160f3a/attachment.sig From roriogm at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 21:27:15 2008 From: roriogm at gmail.com (Jakub) Date: Wed Jul 23 21:27:41 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] The newsletter -- translating Message-ID: <21ab.48878611@forums.frugalware.org> Hi, I have some free time, so I could translate something(like the newsletter and the homepage for the beginning) into Polish. I've done a small part of it(the homepage) already, but I can't see it on the Pootle. From russelldickenson at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 23:51:25 2008 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Wed Jul 23 23:51:38 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: <21ab.48878611@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21ab.48878611@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Jakub wrote: > > > Hi, > I have some free time, so I could translate something(like the newsletter and the homepage for the beginning) into Polish. I've done a small part of it(the homepage) already, but I can't see it on the Pootle. As the author and editor of the newsletter I'd love to see it translated into Polish. AFAIK it's currently translated into French and Danish. Once you've done the homepage and newsletters, perhaps the installer might be a good target? As to how to translate it, you asked the right audience, you now need to wait on an answer. :) May you always be Frugal, Russell Dickenson (AKA phayz) From ryuo at frugalware.org Thu Jul 24 00:07:35 2008 From: ryuo at frugalware.org (James Buren) Date: Thu Jul 24 00:07:55 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] xdm frugalware theme Message-ID: <21ad.4887aba6@forums.frugalware.org> I have created a new frugalware theme for xdm you can find in the repos called xdm-frugalware. Please give feedback on how it could be improved, since I'm out of ideas ATM. From roriogm at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 12:45:26 2008 From: roriogm at gmail.com (Jakub) Date: Thu Jul 24 12:46:03 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21ae.48885d44@forums.frugalware.org> I'll do with a pleasure, but for some reason I cannot find the newsletter in pootle. Perhaps I don't have rights to start new projects in it. From russelldickenson at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 13:07:15 2008 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Thu Jul 24 13:07:50 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: <21ae.48885d44@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21ae.48885d44@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Jakub wrote: > > > I'll do with a pleasure, but for some reason I cannot find the newsletter in pootle. Perhaps I don't have rights to start new projects in it. Jakub, AFAIK the newsletter is not translated via pootle. However I don't know a lot about pootle anyway. VMiklos knows more about this so perhaps wait on a reply or ping him when he's on IRC? May you always be Frugal, Russell Dickenson (AKA phayz) From iron at ironiq.hu Thu Jul 24 13:36:51 2008 From: iron at ironiq.hu (Krisztian VASAS) Date: Thu Jul 24 13:36:57 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: References: <21ae.48885d44@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48886953.9080203@frugalware.org> Russell Dickenson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Jakub wrote: >> >> I'll do with a pleasure, but for some reason I cannot find the newsletter in pootle. Perhaps I don't have rights to start new projects in it. > > Jakub, > > AFAIK the newsletter is not translated via pootle. However I don't > know a lot about pootle anyway. VMiklos knows more about this so > perhaps wait on a reply or ping him when he's on IRC? The newsletter is stored in the homepage-ng repository, not on the pootle. If you'd like to translate the newsletters, you have to get this repo and you'll find them in frugalware/weeklynews directory: git clone http://ftp.frugalware.org/pub/other/homepage-ng IroNiQ From roriogm at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 14:20:37 2008 From: roriogm at gmail.com (Jakub) Date: Thu Jul 24 14:21:04 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: <48886953.9080203@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <21b1.48887394@forums.frugalware.org> Oops!warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Thu Jul 24 17:27:16 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Thu Jul 24 17:27:19 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: The newsletter -- translating In-Reply-To: <21b1.48887394@forums.frugalware.org> References: <48886953.9080203@frugalware.org> <21b1.48887394@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080724152716.GY32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:20:37PM +0200, Jakub wrote: > Oops!warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. try git clone git://git.frugalware.org/pub/other/homepage-ng And yes, we plan to integrate the newsletter and news entries to Pootle, but this isn't done yet. See here: http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/2873 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080724/a73c274d/attachment.sig From Ludovic.Anciaux at advalvas.be Sat Jul 26 15:37:45 2008 From: Ludovic.Anciaux at advalvas.be (Ludovic ANCIAUX) Date: Sat Jul 26 15:38:11 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] package dvdauthor sub program spumux with libmagick Message-ID: <21b4.488b28a7@forums.frugalware.org> Hello, I went again to Kino 1.3.0 recently to finish a video started some months ago. Since last time, I have had multiple trouble with ManDVD (a KDE standalone binary frontend package) which is using dvdauthor and spumux (a part of dvdauthor). Of course Frugalware has been updated often and is up to date (0.9rc) I finally found spumux is using imagemagick through a lib libMagick.so - spumux is waiting for libMagick.so.10 and installed is libMagick.so.1.0. Dvdauthor Frugalware package is up to date (0.6.14-1) as well imagemagick. I decided to compile again spumux from dvdauthor sources (0.6.14) and now it is using libMagick.so fine ... and all my video problems are now only artistical (due do my poor ability). Maybe should you compile again dvdauthor and upload it again. Yours Ludovic (Belgium) From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat Jul 26 19:16:16 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat Jul 26 19:16:18 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] package dvdauthor sub program spumux with libmagick In-Reply-To: <21b4.488b28a7@forums.frugalware.org> References: <21b4.488b28a7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080726171616.GN32057@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 03:37:45PM +0200, Ludovic ANCIAUX wrote: > Maybe should you compile again dvdauthor and upload it again. Please write up a task for this, in this case. The bug tracker is our TODO list, and you can add such an item to it for free! :-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080726/025a3059/attachment-0001.sig From richardg.nw at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 05:38:00 2008 From: richardg.nw at gmail.com (richard) Date: Thu Jul 31 05:38:34 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] User Friendly Distros Message-ID: <21b6.48913393@forums.frugalware.org> I was just thinking recently about what makes a distro user friendly. To put it simply, I realized that I'm not even sure about the qualifications for a so called user friendly distro. I recall reviews mentioning gui configuration tools when speaking about how user friendly a distro is. Frugalware has some pretty good gui configuration tools so would most call it user friendly? In my opinion, I would say that Frugalware is user friendly (not counting installing it - I kept running into bugs it seems). Also, keep in mind that I learned linux with Slackware 12.0. Any thoughts from anyone else on what makes a distro user friendly?