From vmiklos at frugalware.org Thu May 1 04:31:04 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Thu May 1 04:31:06 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Issues In-Reply-To: <20db.4818bd72@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20d8.48189c56@forums.frugalware.org> <20db.4818bd72@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080501023104.GJ23672@genesis.frugalware.org> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:41:55PM +0200, Rhys wrote: > That first post did not sound like i wanted it to. I don't mean to be > arrogant, to be a new user and presume that i know how to do things > better. thanks, that's far better :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Quote: > # pacman -Syu > :: Synchronizing package databases... > (1/1) frugalware [################] 100% 358K 356.7K/s 00:00:01 > :: Starting local database upgrade... > resolving dependencies... done. > error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) > :: madwifi: requires kernel=2.6.24-3 > :: nvidia: requires kernel=2.6.24-3 > :: virtualbox: requires kernel=2.6.24- From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Sun May 4 09:04:32 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Sun May 4 09:05:11 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] some problems Message-ID: <20e0.481d5ffc@forums.frugalware.org> Hi guys, after yesterday upgrade I've some problems. - Netconfig doesn't run Quote: > bash-3.2# netconfig status > /lib/libfwnetconfig.so.0: undefined symbol: __res_query > Can't find plugin named 'netconfig'! > bash-3.2# The same for other other commands - When I run http/://localhost the browser shows "Loading..." but nothing happens Any idea? -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun May 4 12:58:30 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun May 4 12:58:32 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: pacman -Syu error In-Reply-To: <20df.481cf177@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20cb.4812a276@forums.frugalware.org> <20df.481cf177@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080504105830.GS23672@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:12:55AM +0200, David Willis wrote: > Ok, I tried a pacman -Syu again today, and am getting a dependencies > error. I am not sure if it is related to the original problem or not. > But this is what I get. see http://bugs.frugalware.org/task/3053. -Syd kernel should work properly, then you can -Su fine. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The link to the bug doesn't work -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun May 4 15:29:40 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun May 4 15:29:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: some problems In-Reply-To: <20e3.481da3e1@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080504110022.GT23672@genesis.frugalware.org> <20e3.481da3e1@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080504132940.GW23672@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:54:10PM +0200, paparucino wrote: > P.S. The link to the bug doesn't work the auto-link-creator made dot to the link :) remove it and it'll be fine. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From vmiklos at frugalware.org Thu May 8 01:33:50 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Thu May 8 01:33:52 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <20d6.48171b7b@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20d6.48171b7b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080507233350.GD23672@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 02:58:37PM +0200, Vitaliy wrote: > error: failed to commit transaction > (unexpected error) > Errors occured while installing selected packages. > Warning: failed to retrieve some files from frugalware > > After installingpackages i got this error. this is the end of the log. could you please tell us which packages are failed and what mirror did you use? > And during installation some packages need internet-connection. what packages? > Quote: > > 1.2. Installing from DVD > > If you don't have any Internet connection but you want language packs and other optional packages, you'll need two DVDs. > > Pros: a full offline installation is possible. > > Cons: Large amount of data must be downloaded, presumably some unnecessary packages too. > > Is it possible to install offline without any problems? there was a bug about you were not able to change cds or dvds during install. this has been fixed in git, so the upcoming pre1 release won't have this. also, you can always do a base install and install any package you need later from the installed system. hope this helps. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe it could > also be integrated in Frugalware. yes, once the kernel part is integrated to the vanilla kernel. remember that we only push security or bugfixes to the kernel, no feature patches. and i don't think we want to have the userspace utils till we can't test it :) to sum up: we'll probably have this but it needs more time. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080508/93c19795/attachment.sig From crazy at frugalware.org Thu May 8 01:43:45 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Thu May 8 01:44:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] ksplice: Kernelpatch without reboot In-Reply-To: <20080507233539.GE23672@genesis.frugalware.org> References: <20e6.48214f89@forums.frugalware.org> <20080507233539.GE23672@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <48223EB1.9000202@frugalware.org> Miklos Vajna wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 08:43:25AM +0200, Christian Sturm wrote: >> on kerneltrap.org read about a very interesting tool for (server) >> admins. It allows patching the kernel on a running system. >> >> http://web.mit.edu/ksplice/ >> >> I thought this could be interesting for most of you. Maybe it could >> also be integrated in Frugalware. > > yes, once the kernel part is integrated to the vanilla kernel. remember > that we only push security or bugfixes to the kernel, no feature > patches. and i don't think we want to have the userspace utils till we > can't test it :) > > to sum up: we'll probably have this but it needs more time. > The code 'as is now' is more of a hack. AFAIK the ksplice developer plans to redone all the code and submit sometimes the kernel modules for inclusion in mainline.. You may want to read this thread about : http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/23/330 From msr986 at gmail.com Fri May 9 23:54:40 2008 From: msr986 at gmail.com (Martin) Date: Fri May 9 23:55:02 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] First Time in Frugal Questions... Message-ID: <20ea.4824c81e@forums.frugalware.org> Hi everyone, im an Ubuntu User and ex-Arch Linux user.. i love the way pacman works! and i read a lot of this linux distribution and want to give it a shot. Im a 5 year old linux user :d I have 2 questions: 1) I always use ndiswrapper to get my wireless device to work in Linux, i have a broadcom4311 and add to blacklist the bcm43xx module. Then I install the .inf file with ndiswrapper and add the module: ndiswrapper to the modules file. This is how i get wireless to work on ubuntu, then networkmanager do the job for me. Is the same way FW works ???? I only have internet access from wifi, not ethernet =( . After i get access to internet I can do everything by searching... 2) I want a fresh install of FW 0.8 with gnome.. how many CDs do i need ? does the 1st CD contains the kernel, gnome , gnome-extra and others like: nano for example ?. Sorry for my english, im from south america XD thnx ! From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat May 10 00:30:10 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat May 10 00:30:14 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] First Time in Frugal Questions... In-Reply-To: <20ea.4824c81e@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20ea.4824c81e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080509223010.GD27724@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 11:54:40PM +0200, Martin wrote: > 1) I always use ndiswrapper to get my wireless device to work in > Linux, i have a broadcom4311 and add to blacklist the bcm43xx module. > Then I install the .inf file with ndiswrapper and add the module: > ndiswrapper to the modules file. This is how i get wireless to work on > ubuntu, then networkmanager do the job for me. Is the same way FW > works ???? I only have internet access from wifi, not ethernet =( . > After i get access to internet I can do everything by searching... yes, ndiswrapper is packaged. you can search for other packages at http://frugalware.org/packages before asking if "random foo package" is packaged or not ;) > 2) I want a fresh install of FW 0.8 with gnome.. how many CDs do i > need ? does the 1st CD contains the kernel, gnome , gnome-extra and > others like: nano for example ?. there is a .ls-Ral file for each iso so that you can see its contents without downloading the iso. we generally recommend doing only a base install for advanced users, then you can install any package you need with pacman. (base does not include ndiswrapper but you can easily download it manually and install with pacman). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080510/217e3e69/attachment.sig From msr986 at gmail.com Sat May 10 01:17:30 2008 From: msr986 at gmail.com (Martin) Date: Sat May 10 01:17:51 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: First Time in Frugal Questions... In-Reply-To: <20080509223010.GD27724@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20ec.4824db8a@forums.frugalware.org> Thnx for you answer i will compile from source ndiwsrapper .... im downloading the frugalware-08-i686-cd1.iso file ! I download from DistroWatch link thats why i didnt knew about the .lst-Ral file... now i read and it includes gnome =D ... I have another question.. I use linux as a tool for working, i don't have time to play around with the system and trying to solve problems everyday.. so you recommend me the frugalware-08 or the frugalware-current ??? i can imagine that current is frugal-08 with packages up to date ? Does networkmanager come with gnome or is an independent package ? im new to gnome.. XD Sorry for the stupid questions and thnx so much for your time :d From priyankmg at gmail.com Sat May 10 07:35:18 2008 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Sat May 10 07:36:13 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: First Time in Frugal Questions... In-Reply-To: <20ec.4824db8a@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20ed.48253413@forums.frugalware.org> martins10 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2008 04:47 > Thnx for you answer i will compile from source ndiwsrapper .... im downloading the frugalware-08-i686-cd1.iso file ! > > I download from DistroWatch link thats why i didnt knew about the .lst-Ral file... now i read and it includes gnome =D ... > > I have another question.. I use linux as a tool for working, i don't have time to play around with the system and trying to solve problems everyday.. so you recommend me the frugalware-08 or the frugalware-current ??? i can imagine that current is frugal-08 with packages up to date ? I would recommend frugalware-0.8. Security fixes and bug fixes are updated regularly. Quote: > Does networkmanager come with gnome or is an independent package ? im new to gnome.. XD Nope, frugalware does not have NetworkManager. Instead you may want to use GNetconfig (a gui network configuration tool for Frugalware). -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Tue May 13 14:12:57 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Tue May 13 14:54:21 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Image and splashy Message-ID: <20ee.482985c7@forums.frugalware.org> Hi guys, Since I had some free moments I read the Frugalware manual. It's really interesting and well done. I've "discovered" two features I missed, but I can survive without them :) The first one is the frugalware-message when grubs starts. It's nice, but is there a way to remove the boot command otpions window? If I'm not wrong it's no changeable, so, IMHO, it's only annoyng. The other "discovery" is the splashy screen. Well... I like to have text but I'm curious to see how splashy shows. In menu.lst there is no option "nosplashy" but I cannot see it even if once upon a time it was shown. What have I to check? Thank you. -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From vmiklos at frugalware.org Tue May 13 23:07:56 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Tue May 13 23:07:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Image and splashy In-Reply-To: <20ee.482985c7@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20ee.482985c7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080513210756.GQ27724@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 02:12:57PM +0200, paparucino wrote: > The first one is the frugalware-message when grubs starts. It's nice, > but is there a way to remove the boot command otpions window? it's part of the theme, so you can only remove it if you change the theme. the theme itself is hard to change, but technically there is no problem if you change it :) > The other "discovery" is the splashy screen. Well... I like to have > text but I'm curious to see how splashy shows. In menu.lst there is no > option "nosplashy" but I cannot see it even if once upon a time it was > shown. What have I to check? hrm ideally that's all what can prevent splashy from running. is there a /etc/rc.d/rcS.d/S03rc.splash symlink on your system? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080513/a8872ac2/attachment.sig From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Tue May 13 23:50:39 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Tue May 13 23:51:06 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Image and splashy In-Reply-To: <20080513210756.GQ27724@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20f0.482a0d2e@forums.frugalware.org> vmiklos wrote on Tue, 13 May 2008 23:07 > hrm ideally that's all what can prevent splashy from running. > is there a /etc/rc.d/rcS.d/S03rc.splash symlink on your system? Yes and it points to ../rc.splash which contains source /lib/initscripts/functions TEXTDOMAIN=splash TEXTDOMAINDIR=/lib/initscripts/messages actions=(start stop) rc_start() { grep -q nosplashy /proc/cmdline && return chvt 1 if [ -n "$1" ]; then splashy $1 2>/dev/null else splashy boot 2>/dev/null fi # test -w won't work here as the file may be missing if touch /var/run/sendsigs.omit 2>/dev/null; then pidof splashy >> /var/run/sendsigs.omit fi return # FIXME: this time the text is included in the image str=$"Press Esc for verbose mode" max=1024 i=0 while true do splashy_update "print $str" 2>/dev/null && break i=$(($i+1)) [ $i -gt $max ] && break done } rc_stop() { rc_start shutdown } rc_exec $1 The only "strange" thig I've noticed is that in /lib/initscripts/messages there is no en_EN directory but I'm not sure thi si important -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed May 14 11:49:55 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed May 14 11:49:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Image and splashy In-Reply-To: <20f0.482a0d2e@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080513210756.GQ27724@genesis.frugalware.org> <20f0.482a0d2e@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080514094955.GY27724@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:50:39PM +0200, paparucino wrote: > The only "strange" thig I've noticed is that in > /lib/initscripts/messages there is no en_EN directory but I'm not sure > thi si important i don't think it is. do you have framebuffer enabled? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So, how can I install 64 bit current from 32 bit (separate partitions, of course!) without a third download? Regards -- Bob From nix.or.die at googlemail.com Wed May 14 22:58:07 2008 From: nix.or.die at googlemail.com (Gabriel C) Date: Wed May 14 22:58:29 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <20f3.482b22e9@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20f3.482b22e9@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <482B525F.70509@frugalware.org> Bob Waddington wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry to spread the gloom, but I am getting exactly the same problem with 64 bit current. I have tried netinstall and CDs. Both ways installation fails after the package download or copying phase. The setup log file is empty. The pacman log file only shows the cache creation message. > Could you please tell 'what' and how did you installed ? I've installed my box from 64bit 0.9pre1 and is up and running. However there is a grub problem when you have a lot HDD's ( in my case SATA2 / IDE ) and there is a problem when you try to install *everything*. Try this : 1) boot CD1 and install *base* ( or base and network ) only 2) after grub installed switch to tty4 and see if you see any error or a message telling you about ram0 - if you see something bad no worries , continue the install and reboot but don't remove the CD so you boot again from it once the CD booted again switch to tty2 and do : mkdir grub mkdir grub/{proc,sys,dev} mount -t your_fs /dev/where_you_installed_fw grub mount -o,bind /dev grub/dev mount -o,bind /sys grub/sys mount -o,bind /proc grub/proc chroot grub /bin/bash sbin/grub-install /dev/where_you_want_to_install_grub exit reboot - when you don't get any errors reboot normal and remove the CD You can now copy the *fpm's from the CD(s) to /var/cache/pacman-g2/pkg to avoid downloading the fpm's ( of course if you want ) and install from there with pacman as usual. > I now have a complete set of packages without a functioning system. > > Fortunately I have a complete 32 bit installation on the same machine, so it is still functioning! > > So, how can I install 64 bit current from 32 bit (separate partitions, of course!) without a third download? You can't. > > Regards > > > -- > Bob crazy From frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com Thu May 15 08:48:56 2008 From: frederick.cornwallis at gmail.com (paparucino) Date: Thu May 15 08:49:25 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Image and splashy In-Reply-To: <20080514094955.GY27724@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20f5.482bdcd6@forums.frugalware.org> vmiklos wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 11:49 > do you have framebuffer enabled? What's framebuffer? :roll: -- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us From vmiklos at frugalware.org Thu May 15 14:30:09 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Thu May 15 14:30:14 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Image and splashy In-Reply-To: <20f5.482bdcd6@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080514094955.GY27724@genesis.frugalware.org> <20f5.482bdcd6@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080515123009.GG27724@genesis.frugalware.org> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 08:48:56AM +0200, paparucino wrote: > vmiklos wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 11:49 > > do you have framebuffer enabled? > > What's framebuffer? :roll: then probably yes :) it's enabled with a vga=xxx kernel parameter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_framebuffer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080513/4de9e63d/attachment.htm From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Thu May 15 19:46:39 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Thu May 15 19:47:40 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <482B525F.70509@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20f8.482c76fd@forums.frugalware.org> Hi Crazy, Many thanks for your speedy response. Sorry I've taken all day to reply, but "real life" intervened. I have one HDD and an Nvidia graphics card. French keyboard. AMD-64 dual core. First attempt: I tried to install Frugalware current 64 bit (note, not stable). I started with the net install from ftp5. I chose the default install, but without Gnome and with extra multimedia, extra kde and extra xfce4. (Yes, I like pizzas too.) I did not choose my own packages. All went well until the installer complained that the XF86 video drivers for Intel and i180 (?) were not compatible and exited. Nothing installed. Second attempt: I tried the same thing, but elected to choose my own packages. I said no to all the XF86 video card drivers except for the generics and Nvidia. Nvidia clashed with xlibgl. The installer exited. Nothing installed. Third attempt: As above, less xlibgl. Exit without any detailed error message. Nothing installed. Fourth attempt: Used CD1, selected out the offenders above. "Errors occurred." Nothing installed. Fifth attempt: Used CD1. Asked for apps, base, network, but no X or dependencies. (I could install these later.) "Errors occurred." Nothing installed. Sixth attempt: Used CD1 as per your advice. Base installed OK! No errors. I'll get back to installing the rest later. (I need to use the computer for some actual work now...) Your advice was as sound as ever, as well as incredibly timely. But, if I may, I would just mention that I am a great Frugalware fan, I have used it exclusively since Trantor pre-2, I have installed it on quite a few machines for family and friends, but that I have only rarely had a smooth install experience. I have only seen a successful x configuration once: and that was on a peculiar laptop! There was once talk of a graphical installer. Any progress? I'm probably too out of date to help, but feel free to ask... Regards, Bob -- Bob From nix.or.die at googlemail.com Thu May 15 20:20:29 2008 From: nix.or.die at googlemail.com (Gabriel C) Date: Thu May 15 20:21:00 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <20f8.482c76fd@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20f8.482c76fd@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <482C7EED.9080601@frugalware.org> Bob Waddington wrote: > > Hi Crazy, Hi, > > Many thanks for your speedy response. Sorry I've taken all day to reply, but "real life" intervened. You are welcome :) > > I have one HDD and an Nvidia graphics card. French keyboard. AMD-64 dual core. 4X250 GB SATA2 , 1X120GB PATA disk , 1x8GB and 1x1GB USB sticks ( which I use for testing usb installs ) , Intel x3100 graphics card , Quad Core Q9300 CPU , SATA DVD/CD/RW here. With all these HDD's the installer is somewhat confused in 0.9pre1 ( I still try to figure why ). > > First attempt: I tried to install Frugalware current 64 bit (note, not stable). I started with the net install from ftp5. I chose the default install, but without Gnome and with extra multimedia, extra kde and extra xfce4. (Yes, I like pizzas too.) I did not choose my own packages. All went well until the installer complained that the XF86 video drivers for Intel and i180 (?) were not compatible and exited. Nothing installed. ftp5 is broken .. don't use it heh. Anyway strange , I will investigate this. > > Second attempt: I tried the same thing, but elected to choose my own packages. I said no to all the XF86 video card drivers except for the generics and Nvidia. Nvidia clashed with xlibgl. The installer exited. Nothing installed. > So you did 'expert' install I assume. FYI expert install means exactly that. pacman won't care about depends nor about anything else , meaning if you don't know 'the packages and the packages depends' you get an broken install. > Third attempt: As above, less xlibgl. Exit without any detailed error message. Nothing installed. > > Fourth attempt: Used CD1, selected out the offenders above. "Errors occurred." Nothing installed. > > Fifth attempt: Used CD1. Asked for apps, base, network, but no X or dependencies. (I could install these later.) "Errors occurred." Nothing installed. yeah expert install is like this =) Once you figure what package you need + depends it will work fine. > > Sixth attempt: Used CD1 as per your advice. Base installed OK! No errors. I'll get back to installing the rest later. (I need to use the computer for some actual work now...) > > Your advice was as sound as ever, as well as incredibly timely. > > But, if I may, I would just mention that I am a great Frugalware fan, I have used it exclusively since Trantor pre-2, I have installed it on quite a few machines for family and friends, but that I have only rarely had a smooth install experience. > I have only seen a successful x configuration once: and that was on a peculiar laptop! Uhh I think I got and broken X install only twice but that with some weird old nvidia card. ( well I saw some more in the testing phase but I talk about released iso's ) > There was once talk of a graphical installer. Any progress? I'm probably too out of date to help, but feel free to ask... Well there was but to be honest I personally don't care about 'graphical installer'. Nope no progress , sorry. 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(pauloma but thought of the certain consequences to himself my guineas, on his infallible fulfillment of duty is none else, save bhima, that can today accomplish be missin' that grass. ram somethin' down his tell miss nugent. There was a footman in the family, the great difficulties one should never do this. Toward her in admiration and in protest, but he to the hostile host?' bhimasena said, 'where wilt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080517/8fdfe5a9/attachment.htm From ivkiili at mail.ee Sun May 18 19:25:55 2008 From: ivkiili at mail.ee (ivkiili@mail.ee) Date: Sun May 18 19:26:23 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] FW first encounter: my notes and problems Message-ID: <20ff.483066a1@forums.frugalware.org> Hi guys! I finally tried your distro. I might like to stay with it because of its speed and responsiveness (after logging in) but there are features which may scare me away or I don't like. So I would like to share with you my first time frugalware user notes: After installing 1st DVD on 8GB ext3 partition on Pentium M notebooks with Intel 915 graphics accelerator I noted the following: 1. I was not able to mount ntfs partitions by clicking on them. (other distros like Dreamlinux, Xubuntu, Mint, even 80MB Puppy ... can do) 2. I was not able to play divx file out of the box (not good for a distro which claims multimedia is its priority). 3. The default fonts appeared too fuzzy to me. 4. I didn't like the default grey-blue desktop wallpaper. 5. The double click and drug function of the touchpad does not work out of the box. I don't know how to fix it manually. 6. Grub was not properly installed neither in MBR nor on the FW partition. I had to edit menu.lst on the grub installed by another linux distro in order to be able to boot into FW. 7. It seems that the speedstep does not work out of the box: the Pentium M processor stay on it max clock. 8. I could not find any tools to control the system (temperatures, processor spead and load, net activity, RAM usage), which is kind of strange for a big distro like FW. 9. emacs starts in a strange way, so that you canot just start to type in the window it openes. Haven't seen this way of startinh emacs before. 10. I tried to install texmaker using Gfpm package manager. First time the retrivial of packages lasted forever, so I had to give up, and next day I got "Failed to commit transaction (unexpected error)" error message. I also wanted to install LaTeX system but I could not find proper packages. I makes the system not uable for my needs. 11. Being a conservative person, I didn't like an unusual blue cursor of the system out of the box. 12. The "shell Konsole" called by System>Konsole is loaded as too wide for my taste and uses strange typesetter like fonts with too much space between the letters. PS: Those are comments of a lazy linuxer who likes to use Linux but doesn't like to administer and hack it and, even worth, to invest too much to learn it beyond his user's needs. From zephyr83 at tin.it Mon May 19 15:33:05 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Mon May 19 15:36:18 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Problems with Storage Media Message-ID: <2107.48318190@forums.frugalware.org> Up! I want open my ntfs partition without edit fstab. With fat32 or linux partition no problems. With old frugalware's version no problem. From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon May 19 16:18:47 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon May 19 16:18:49 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] FW first encounter: my notes and problems In-Reply-To: <20ff.483066a1@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20ff.483066a1@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080519141847.GL27724@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:25:55PM +0200, "ivkiili@mail.ee" wrote: > So I would like to share with you my first time frugalware user notes: thank you for your notes, i think first time users' optinion is interesting, since most developers are old-timers. > After installing 1st DVD on 8GB ext3 partition on Pentium M notebooks > with Intel 915 graphics accelerator I noted the following: > > 1. I was not able to mount ntfs partitions by clicking on them. > (other distros like Dreamlinux, Xubuntu, Mint, even 80MB Puppy ... can do) try to see what is the error message, so that we can help. 1) what application did you try to click? konqueror? some gnome application? 2) any interesting in dmesg? try the 'dmesg|tail' command. > 2. I was not able to play divx file out of the box (not good > for a distro which claims multimedia is its priority). what program did you try? i use mplayer usually, it is installed by default, it has a graphical interface and it plays most such files. > 3. The default fonts appeared too fuzzy to me. that's subjective i suppose :) feel free to set other fonts, we just provide default values. > 4. I didn't like the default grey-blue desktop wallpaper. feel free to contribute one that you think is better. of just change it, you don't have to live with the default wallpaper. > 5. The double click and drug function of the touchpad does not work > out of the box. I don't know how to fix it manually. what kind of touchpad do you have? if synpatics, then probably you missed the documentation: http://frugalware.org/docs/packages#_synaptics > 6. Grub was not properly installed neither in MBR nor on the FW > partition. I had to edit menu.lst on the grub installed by another > linux distro in order to be able to boot into FW. if you can share your /var/log/setup.log, that might contain interesting information on why did it fail. for example, did you choose to have a separate /boot partition? or anything special? > 7. It seems that the speedstep does not work out of the box: the > Pentium M processor stay on it max clock. did you install any software that provides such a functionality? like powernowd. > 8. I could not find any tools to control the system (temperatures, > processor spead and load, net activity, RAM usage), which is kind of > strange for a big distro like FW. you can't control temperature, just monitor it. did you read the documentation of lmsensors on how to set it up? see http://frugalware.org/docs/packages#_lmsensors > 9. emacs starts in a strange way, so that you canot just start to type > in the window it openes. Haven't seen this way of startinh emacs > before. that's the default method upstream does. we do not patch packages to change behaviour. you can ask upstream emacs developers to change the behaviour or just set up your emacs configuration file to achieve such a behaviour. > 10. I tried to install texmaker using Gfpm package manager. > First time the retrivial of packages > lasted forever, so I had to give up, and next day I got "Failed to commit transaction (unexpected error)" error message. > I also wanted to install LaTeX system but I could not find proper packages. I makes the system not uable for my needs. try to install it with the console client and then we can see if this is a problem with gfpm itself or it's a general bug. the later problem is a separate issue, if you don't know a name of a package, then please use the package search page: http://frugalware.org/packages/?op=pkg&srch=tex&arch=i686&ver=0.8 it lists tetex, that's what you need. > 11. Being a conservative person, I didn't like an unusual blue cursor of the system out of the box. then change it to something you prefer :) > 12. The "shell Konsole" called by System>Konsole is loaded as too wide > for my taste and uses strange typesetter like fonts with too much > space between the letters. i suppose that's subjective as well. just configure it to meet you needs. there is no default that is great for everyone. > PS: Those are comments of a lazy linuxer who likes to use Linux but > doesn't like to administer and hack it and, even worth, to invest too > much to learn it beyond his user's needs. sure. here in the forums and mailing lists we try to help. if somewhere you think it's a bug, then you need to open a task at http://bugs.frugalware.org have a nice day. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However that won't work when you put your 'partitions in fstab with weird options' > > thanks. crazy From perbh at mailshack.com Tue May 20 01:21:02 2008 From: perbh at mailshack.com (Per Borg-Hansen) Date: Tue May 20 01:21:44 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 Message-ID: <210d.48320b5c@forums.frugalware.org> I have a very similar problem - triple core amd-64 and all other 'goodies'. Seeing I have my own up-to-date repo (nightly downloads from ftp10), I only install from the *.net.iso. Trying current - I select absolutely everything and get the error with xf86-video-i810 and xf86-video-intel. The first one is not even in the repo (I think it was replaced by xf86-video-intel some time back) but obviously it is still listed as a dependency for some packet or another. Is it possible at some stage to get this dependency removed? Let me say that I do l-o-v-e my frugalware, but like some of the above posts, I have seldom had a clean install - there are always some issues that forces one to make some grade-A gymnastics! I know I can do it all in bits and pieces and thus get around the above problem, but I shouldn't really have to. I have absolutely no problems with a non-graphic installer - you can keep the current one as far as I'm concerned - infact, I _prefer_ the current one to graphics! Thank you for a great distribution! From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Tue May 20 08:44:50 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Tue May 20 08:45:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Re: Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <482C7EED.9080601@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <210e.4832735a@forums.frugalware.org> Hi, Sorry: I have just realised that, by replying directly to Crazy, I have neglected to put my message on the forum. It follows: On Thursday 15 May 2008 20:20:29 you wrote: > > There was once talk of a graphical installer. Any progress? I'm probably > > too out of date to help, but feel free to ask... > > Well there was but to be honest I personally don't care about 'graphical > installer'. > > Nope no progress , sorry. Understood. However, it seems, from the number of complaints, that the installer, as is, is no longer pleasing everyone. Although I hold no particular brief for any particular type of installer - graphical, ncurses or whatever - it does seem that what we have at the moment closely resembles the sort of program that I was writing 25 or 30 years ago. They were derived from flow charts, they were highly procedural, their processing was designer controlled rather than user controlled and their error handling was pre-determined and insensitive. Take, for example, the case of a conflict between two chosen packages. Whether the error is the product of designer failing (conflicting XF68 drivers, for example) or of user ignorance (misguided package selection) is not important. What is desirable is that the installer, having identified the conflict after several hours of download, does something more productive than exiting with a more or less useful error message. "Errors Occurred" is accurate but a useless introduction to a black screen of death. Surely it would be better, where possible, to allow the user to correct the error - perhaps by changing the choice of packages - and to restart the process at a suitable point, rather than at the very beginning. As things stand at the moment, graphical interfaces provide a useful and easily understandable (by the user) method of presenting such program progress and status, as well as probably presenting a more straightforward and (relatively) more easily developed interface from the point of view of the designer and the programmer. My own main contribution (if it can be given such a grand title) to Frugalware is to install it on as many machines as I can. Once it is up and running it is usually very popular. But, as a serial installer, I would dearly love a better installation tool! Whatever, best regards to you all, and many thanks for a really first class distribution and working environment. And further thanks for putting up with all our ill-informed moans. Bob -- Bob From zephyr83 at tin.it Tue May 20 16:40:23 2008 From: zephyr83 at tin.it (Marietto) Date: Tue May 20 16:40:53 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Problems with NTFS Partition Message-ID: <2111.4832e2d7@forums.frugalware.org> It's bug of HAL :( From perbh at mailshack.com Tue May 20 21:52:13 2008 From: perbh at mailshack.com (Per Borg-Hansen) Date: Tue May 20 21:53:00 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 Message-ID: <2112.48332beb@forums.frugalware.org> I couldn't agree more! I don't mind ncurses-based at all - infact I prefer it since introducing graphics at such an early stage can/will lead to problems when encountering exotic graphics adapters. Also - graphics is verbal diahorrea as far as programming goes. The effort would be far better spent on error recovery! However - I do willingly second the above opinion of recovering from possible errors. We should have the opportunity of going back to the selection process if anything fails. For my own li'l problem, I would dearly like to say: "forget about the intel video drivers - I dont need/use them for this particular computer". Instead I'm met with a black screen and a reboot. It's not such a biggie when I have my own repo - but if I had downloaded for hours, I would have felt somewhat miffed. But again - once you have got it up and going - it's a beautiful distribution! It's just a pity that first impressions sometimes can lead to people throwing it on the distribution-heap because they encounter too many difficulties. Will all due respect, Per From vmiklos at frugalware.org Wed May 21 15:35:55 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Wed May 21 15:35:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <210d.48320b5c@forums.frugalware.org> References: <210d.48320b5c@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080521133555.GC27724@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:21:02AM +0200, Per Borg-Hansen wrote: > I have a very similar problem - triple core amd-64 and all other > 'goodies'. > Seeing I have my own up-to-date repo (nightly downloads from ftp10), I > only install from the *.net.iso. > Trying current - I select absolutely everything and get the error with > xf86-video-i810 and xf86-video-intel. > The first one is not even in the repo (I think it was replaced by > xf86-video-intel some time back) but obviously it is still listed as a > dependency for some packet or another. > > Is it possible at some stage to get this dependency removed? we have a testcase for this issue in our testsuite for about a week, so ideally this should not happen. maybe just try to update your local mirror and give it a shot again. if the error is still there, then please report us the exact error message and we'll try to help. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(forgot to check _before_ I installed ntfs-3g) If infact it comes with ntfs-3g, is there any special reason why the mkntfs was not included? Per From crazy at frugalware.org Wed May 21 21:09:34 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Wed May 21 21:10:04 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Problems with NTFS Partition In-Reply-To: <2114.48346f37@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2114.48346f37@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <4834736E.6040909@frugalware.org> Per Borg-Hansen wrote: > > If it's allready formatted, I can easily (well, everything is relative) mount it like thus: > mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw /dev/sdX1 /mnt/usb > > and I can even write to it! :) > > However, I can find no way to format it under frugalware (and yes, I _have_ installed the ntfs-3g package). Beacuse 'ntfs-3g' is only the fuse implementation of ntfs ? Install ntfsprogs ? Also you can use ntfsmount from ntfsprogs too > > Doing the same under archlinux I have a /sbin/mkfs.ntfs which is a link to /usr/sbin/mkntfs. > I don't know if this comes with the ntfs-3g package or if it has been installed by something else ... (forgot to check _before_ I installed ntfs-3g) > > If infact it comes with ntfs-3g, is there any special reason why the mkntfs was not included? No it comes with 'ntfsprogs' From perbh at mailshack.com Wed May 21 21:57:49 2008 From: perbh at mailshack.com (Per Borg-Hansen) Date: Wed May 21 21:58:13 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Problems with NTFS Partition Message-ID: <2116.48347ebd@forums.frugalware.org> duh! my ignorance shows :( Thank you for prompt info! From brawl at galloo.com Sat May 24 00:14:29 2008 From: brawl at galloo.com (Felico Obstfeld) Date: Sat May 24 00:19:53 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] leakage leakage Message-ID: <2525369698.20080523220408@galloo.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: engrandizes.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6915 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080523/1d3fb966/engrandizes-0001.jpg From michaeljohncarr at yahoo.co.uk Tue May 27 16:35:46 2008 From: michaeljohncarr at yahoo.co.uk (Tiedemann) Date: Tue May 27 16:36:35 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] "Improved security" in 0.9 Message-ID: <2118.483c1c41@forums.frugalware.org> Hi, I was just looking at the release notes for 0.9pre1 which mentions "improved security" via working "together with other Linux vendors to provide better security support". As a matter of interest -- security plays a large part in deciding which distros I'm willing to adopt -- what is this arrangement with other distros for providing faster and more comprehensive security fixes? From voroskoi at frugalware.org Tue May 27 16:43:05 2008 From: voroskoi at frugalware.org (VOROSKOI Andras) Date: Tue May 27 16:43:06 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] "Improved security" in 0.9 In-Reply-To: <2118.483c1c41@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2118.483c1c41@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080527144304.GC28524@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:35:46PM +0200, Tiedemann wrote: > As a matter of interest -- security plays a large part in deciding which distros I'm willing to adopt -- what is this arrangement with other distros for providing faster and more comprehensive security fixes? This means that we are on vendor-sec[1] mailing list. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor-sec -- voroskoi From michaeljohncarr at yahoo.co.uk Tue May 27 16:54:20 2008 From: michaeljohncarr at yahoo.co.uk (Tiedemann) Date: Tue May 27 16:54:43 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: "Improved security" in 0.9 In-Reply-To: <20080527144304.GC28524@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <211a.483c209b@forums.frugalware.org> That's excellent news -- though I suppose current users of 0.8 Stable are equally set to benefit from this new arrangement (I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else)? From voroskoi at frugalware.org Tue May 27 17:01:14 2008 From: voroskoi at frugalware.org (VOROSKOI Andras) Date: Tue May 27 17:01:15 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: "Improved security" in 0.9 In-Reply-To: <211a.483c209b@forums.frugalware.org> References: <20080527144304.GC28524@genesis.frugalware.org> <211a.483c209b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20080527150114.GD28524@genesis.frugalware.org> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:54:20PM +0200, Tiedemann wrote: > That's excellent news -- though I suppose current users of 0.8 Stable are equally set to benefit from this new arrangement (I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else)? As we have stable security support it's obvious that we use the information found on vendor-sec. So yes, it's good for those too who use the stable repo. -- voroskoi From flakeroats at hotmail.com Tue May 27 23:19:52 2008 From: flakeroats at hotmail.com (James Buren) Date: Tue May 27 23:20:20 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: frugalware installation In-Reply-To: <211c.483c3ee2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <211e.483c7af7@forums.frugalware.org> Well, there are plenty of possibilites. One time I had this type of problem because my laptop had issues with more than 1 GB of RAM. Reverted the RAM, and it all went back to fine. You can try some stuff like disabling ACPI, etc, and see if you get anywhere. From marco.sincovich at gmail.com Thu May 29 09:27:52 2008 From: marco.sincovich at gmail.com (marco) Date: Thu May 29 09:29:08 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: frugalware installation In-Reply-To: <211e.483c7af7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <211f.483e5af4@forums.frugalware.org> how could i do this? From flakeroats at hotmail.com Thu May 29 18:31:16 2008 From: flakeroats at hotmail.com (James Buren) Date: Thu May 29 18:31:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: frugalware installation In-Reply-To: <211c.483c3ee2@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2120.483eda54@forums.frugalware.org> Passing arguments to the kernel before bootup, like noacpi, nosmp, acpi=off. From ferhiord at gmail.com Thu May 29 20:48:45 2008 From: ferhiord at gmail.com (Vitaly Dolgov) Date: Thu May 29 20:48:58 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] font size problem Message-ID: <77ac503e0805291148m560ad8ebr3b4581efd291a315@mail.gmail.com> When I login from SLiM login manager I see this ( http://smages.com/code/45/16/4516a79a112a4a8c152564cd29fb743c.png.htm ) all fonts are shrinked, but if i kill X server, login in terminal and write "startx" i see ( http://smages.com/code/39/31/3931c4f57d61812c71ac165eb1453daa.png.htm). How to solve this problem? From russelldickenson at gmail.com Thu May 29 23:33:48 2008 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Thu May 29 23:34:12 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: font size problem In-Reply-To: <77ac503e0805291148m560ad8ebr3b4581efd291a315@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2122.483f213b@forums.frugalware.org> Vitaly, G'day from Australia. And now to your problem - I *think* your problem might be that SLiM has its own configuration file - /etc/slim.conf, which explicity sets the DPI value to "72". The result may be different if your "startx" command is resulting in a different DPI value. I believe you can check the DPI value at which X is running with the command "xdpyinfo | grep dpi". If in fact this is the problem, simply change the DPI setting in SLiM's configuration file to match the value you get when you enter the command "startx". I hope I've helped, or at least not made things any worse for you :) On a different topic, would be able to provide a link to your wallpaper, also the system monitoring utility's configuration file? Is it conky or something similar that you're running? From perbh at mailshack.com Fri May 30 17:18:49 2008 From: perbh at mailshack.com (Per Borg-Hansen) Date: Fri May 30 17:20:12 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 Message-ID: <2123.48401ad8@forums.frugalware.org> Ok - I have waited for the 'dust' to settle, so am trying again. Repo current as of 2008-05-29 @ 0300. 1) triple core amd cpu. 2) frugalware-current-0.8-2403 net install (x86_64) 3) pointing at local repo - selecting absolutely everything (ie all 'groups' are marked with a '*') - long silence while installer digests it all then: error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: xf86-video-i810: conflicts with xf86-video-intel Errors occured when installing selected packages. Press ENTER to continue. so - no difference from the last time I tried. From crazy at frugalware.org Fri May 30 18:17:49 2008 From: crazy at frugalware.org (Gabriel C) Date: Fri May 30 18:19:21 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <2123.48401ad8@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2123.48401ad8@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <484028AD.1020506@frugalware.org> Per Borg-Hansen wrote: > > Ok - I have waited for the 'dust' to settle, so am trying again. > Repo current as of 2008-05-29 @ 0300. > > 1) triple core amd cpu. > 2) frugalware-current-0.8-2403 net install (x86_64) How about you stop to use random snapshots and get 0.9pre1 net iso ? > 3) pointing at local repo - selecting absolutely everything (ie all 'groups' are marked with a '*') Heh maybe fix your local repo ? > > - long silence while installer digests it all > then: > > error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) > :: xf86-video-i810: conflicts with xf86-video-intel > Errors occured when installing selected packages. There is nothing depends() on xf86-video-i810 not to mention the package doesn't exists at all. .. find $fst_root -name FrugalBuild | xargs egrep 'depends|rodepends' | grep xf86-video-i810| wc -l 0 .. pacman-g2 -Si xf86-video-i810 error: package "xf86-video-i810" was not found. $ arch x86_64 From bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr Fri May 30 18:32:13 2008 From: bob.waddington at wanadoo.fr (Bob Waddington) Date: Fri May 30 18:33:06 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Re: Re: Error during installation Frugalware 0.8 In-Reply-To: <484028AD.1020506@frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2125.48402c0c@forums.frugalware.org> Hi, Yes, Crazy, the package does not exist. But this is exactly the same conflict which reportedly sank my efforts to install using a brand-new net-install iso. I used ftp10 (no local repo). Somewhere there is a bug... Good hunting! Cheers, Bob -- Bob From ferhiord at gmail.com Fri May 30 23:50:30 2008 From: ferhiord at gmail.com (Vitaly Dolgov) Date: Fri May 30 23:50:42 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] cyrillic fonts problem Message-ID: <77ac503e0805301450l2a543c8cw3b7065af61d8c338@mail.gmail.com> If I login with SLiM login manager I have a problem with entering cyrillyc symbols in terminal: in tilda any cyrillic char becomes '?', in urxvt i can't enter any cyrillic char. But if i login through terminal and write "startx" - everything is ok :| /etc/slim.conf - http://frugalware.org/paste/2602 /etc/profile.d/lang.sh - http://frugalware.org/paste/2604 From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat May 31 18:25:35 2008 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat May 31 18:25:40 2008 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] cyrillic fonts problem In-Reply-To: <77ac503e0805301450l2a543c8cw3b7065af61d8c338@mail.gmail.com> References: <77ac503e0805301450l2a543c8cw3b7065af61d8c338@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080531162535.GN29404@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:50:30AM +0400, Vitaly Dolgov wrote: > If I login with SLiM login manager I have a problem with entering > cyrillyc symbols in terminal: in tilda any cyrillic char becomes '?', > in urxvt i can't enter any cyrillic char. But if i login through > terminal and write "startx" - everything is ok :| could you please write up a bugreport? slim is maintained by Priyank, but he's away at the moment. thanks -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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