From russelldickenson at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 00:10:44 2009 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:10:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] GFpm - question about user interface Message-ID: <24f1.4a7a0361@forums.frugalware.org> In GFpm's Packages panel are two columns - once is marked "S" and the other "Status". What does the letter "S" mean? What is the meaning of the various symbols - i.e. the gray circle and the green circle? I think these need to be explained somewhere. Note that I'm asking these questions because I'm wanting to document GFpm. Since I don't know the answers to these questions, I can't explain them. :) From russelldickenson at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 01:07:45 2009 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:07:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer Message-ID: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> I believe there's a "fault" with the logic behind Frugalware's installer. Take my typical installation as an example. I download the first 2 CDs, start an installation and chose just a few groups - base, xfce, X for example. The installation proceeds fine through CD 1 and 2, then asks me if I have any more CDs. I don't, so I say "No" and the remainder of the installation process is completed. I boot the PC, log in, start a desktop environment and then find that some of the packages I had expected to have been installed are not installed. These were, I presume, on CDs 3 and upward. I'm not sure what option would be best in these circumstances, but the current state is rather confusing. I have been using FW for several years now, so I can rectify any problems that arise. Someone less experienced with FW however, would probably not be able to resolve these problems. Does anyone else have an opinion on this situation? Do I perhaps misunderstand? From iron at frugalware.org Thu Aug 6 08:05:55 2009 From: iron at frugalware.org (Krisztian VASAS) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:05:55 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] GFpm - question about user interface In-Reply-To: <24f1.4a7a0361@forums.frugalware.org> References: <24f1.4a7a0361@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <4A7A72C3.1060504@frugalware.org> Russell Dickenson wrote: > > In GFpm's Packages panel are two columns - once is marked "S" and the other "Status". What does the letter "S" mean? What is the meaning of the various symbols - i.e. the gray circle and the green circle? > > I think these need to be explained somewhere. Note that I'm asking these questions because I'm wanting to document GFpm. Since I don't know the answers to these questions, I can't explain them. :) I think it's understandable: grey means the package is not installed (and the green means the opposite). IroNiQ -- Member of Frugalware Developer Team Web: http://www.ironiq.hu LinuxCounter: #331532 From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Fri Aug 7 18:41:00 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:41:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24f5.4a7c591b@forums.frugalware.org> Yes, its a terrible installer. I can't understand why the disto compilers don't understand that the first process (ie installation) should be extremely easy - that old saying "first impressions" and all that..... THey ought to have a look at PCLinuxOS 2009.x and see how it should be done! From devil505linux at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 21:20:06 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:20:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f5.4a7c591b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24f7.4a7c7e65@forums.frugalware.org> badinstall wrote on Fri, 07 August 2009 18:40 > Yes, its a terrible installer. > > I can't understand why the disto compilers don't understand that the first process (ie installation) should be extremely easy - that old saying "first impressions" and all that..... > > THey ought to have a look at PCLinuxOS 2009.x and see how it should be done! Keep in mind the objectives of Frugalware and Pclos are differents. "Frugalware is a general purpose linux distribution, designed for intermediate users (who are not afraid of text mode). " PCLOS is designed for beginners. By the way, if you are looking for a graphical installer, try fwife netinstall CD: http://utopia.toile-libre.org/fwife/cdinstall/ :) -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sat Aug 8 00:43:08 2009 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:43:08 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] How to create a Frugalware live installation on a USB thumb drive/key? In-Reply-To: <24f0.4a723756@forums.frugalware.org> References: <24f0.4a723756@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20090807224308.GS17280@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:14:15AM +0200, Russell Dickenson wrote: > As I understand, Frugalware's live edition is not currently being maintained. That's correct, Janny stopped maintaining them, and nobody stepped up to continue his work so far. > What I'd like to do is create a live installation of Frugalware on a > bootable USB thumb drive/key, with all changes being persistent. I've > looked at two live distros with persistent changes, and they're both > created via the scripts provided at http://www.linux-live.org/. If I > use the scripts from this site, am I likely to achieve my dream? I > haven't yet tried the scripts, but I hope to do so within the next few > weeks. Ideally all the fwlive scripts does is to make scripts from linux-live.org a bit more automated. However, you can start from cratch as well, sure. Sorry, no idea about booting from USB, my x86 PC does not support booting from there. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From devil505linux at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 12:01:42 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24fb.4a7d4807@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24fc.4a7d4d05@forums.frugalware.org> badinstall wrote on Sat, 08 August 2009 11:40 > I don't think saying PCLOS users are beginners would go down very well in their forum. I didn't say that, I've just said PCLOS is mainly designed for beginners users (like Ubuntu or Fedora) with graphical apps, in the other side you Gentoo or Arch, designed for users who prefer use their system by the terminal. Quote: > Apart from that you make my point perfectly - coz Frugalware is thought of as more advanced that by making things harder makes something superior/better/more advanced (whatever you want to call it) but it my humble opinion that is simply not true. > > I don't consider myself a Linux beginner (but definitely not advanced either) and have installed various distros dozens of times but find the FW installer a real hurdle when in fact it could be so much simpler and more friendly to use. > > But as I say its only my opinion. I respect your opinion. The installer is also buggy, and sometimes we can't reproduce the bug. :( Quote: > Can I ask you a quick question? I've just clicked on the fwife netinstall link you supplied - thank you for that - and can see it offers an graphical installer, is that developed by an FW "splinter team" or by the "full" development team, and if its done by the full team are they developing one for "mainstream" installation or will the current install method always be the way? When establishing the objectives for FW 1.0 Anacreon, Vmiklos said a graphical installer for Fwlive would be nice. Elentir, one of the devel team, developped Fwife, a front-end of the actual installer (you can find fwife package in current btw). I don't think fwife will be integrated by default sooner. And also the developpement of the live cd Fwlive is halted :/ Elentir will see with Vmiklos to make fwife netinstall iso available for the release of FW 1.1 Getorin. If you have more questions, don't hesitate :) -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From priyankmg at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 10:14:00 2009 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] GFpm - question about user interface In-Reply-To: <24f1.4a7a0361@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24fa.4a7d33c7@forums.frugalware.org> gray: package not installed green: package is installed orange: local version is newer blue : an update for the package is available And yes, it needs to be documented somewhere. -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sat Aug 8 11:40:25 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:40:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24fb.4a7d4807@forums.frugalware.org> I don't think saying PCLOS users are beginners would go down very well in their forum. Apart from that you make my point perfectly - coz Frugalware is thought of as more advanced that by making things harder makes something superior/better/more advanced (whatever you want to call it) but it my humble opinion that is simply not true. I don't consider myself a Linux beginner (but definitely not advanced either) and have installed various distros dozens of times but find the FW installer a real hurdle when in fact it could be so much simpler and more friendly to use. But as I say its only my opinion. Can I ask you a quick question? I've just clicked on the fwife netinstall link you supplied - thank you for that - and can see it offers an graphical installer, is that developed by an FW "splinter team" or by the "full" development team, and if its done by the full team are they developing one for "mainstream" installation or will the current install method always be the way? From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sat Aug 8 17:41:01 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:41:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24fe.4a7d9c88@forums.frugalware.org> Thanks for your very informative and helpful reply. Okay - another query for ya; In a nutshell, what are FW's actual core objectives? Is it seen as being something different from the other distros or simply to plod along getting better bit by bit (or byte by byte) What, in your opinion, is FW best at? Or something you see that it does very well? If you were being a salesman and had to "sell" it what feature(s) would you say were the best? Sad to hear development of Live CD has been halted (temporarily?) but good news that fwife netinstall iso will be available for the release of FW 1.1 Getorin. Is there a target date for Getorin's release? BTW is Vmiklos the head honcho? From devil505linux at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 17:51:33 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <24ff.4a7d9f04@forums.frugalware.org> You'll find all answers here http://frugalware.org/about According to the roadmap, Getorin release date is 1st september. And yes Vmiklos is the founder and devel in chief of FW. :) -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From priyankmg at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 18:23:08 2009 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:23:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] GFpm - question about user interface In-Reply-To: <24fa.4a7d33c7@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2500.4a7da66c@forums.frugalware.org> phayz, how about adding an option in the Help menu, that dispalys a small dialog showing information about what these icons mean ? -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From priyankmg at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 18:25:15 2009 From: priyankmg at gmail.com (Priyank M.G.) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:25:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] GFpm - question about user interface In-Reply-To: <24f1.4a7a0361@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2501.4a7da6eb@forums.frugalware.org> phayz wrote on Thu, 06 August 2009 03:40 > In GFpm's Packages panel are two columns - once is marked "S" and the other "Status". What does the letter "S" mean? What is the meaning of the various symbols - i.e. the gray circle and the green circle? S means the same, i.e. Status. I just wanted to keep it short so that it occupied minimum but enough space to display those colored status icons. -- - Priyank [ Thou shalt never follow a null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie ] From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sun Aug 9 11:20:04 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:20:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2502.4a7e94c2@forums.frugalware.org> Well, I thought i'd give FW another whirl by using the graphical fwife netinstall CD installer and lo and behold it failed again. The statement on the download page of "First, It's on heavy development and maybe buggy! So use at your own risk :p" is very true :@-)) I tried installing it in various guises/combinations thus: from different single servers and also selecting 2 and 3 and 4 european servers at once; with KDE, then Gnome, then LXDE and alas all stopped with the installation between 10 to 30% of the way in. I have a rock solid 10Mb broadband pipe so I don't believe the download would of halted or caused any issues. So it looks as though FW just doesn't like me and stubbornly refuses to comply with my wishes... From devil505linux at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 11:34:35 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:34:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2503.4a7e982a@forums.frugalware.org> You used Virtual Box ? -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sun Aug 9 11:49:25 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2504.4a7e9ba5@forums.frugalware.org> Yup - I always test a distro on VBox before installing on a HDD but when it failed on there I did attempt to install it directly onto a HDD but as failed too, but went back to VBox so the last is a yes, it was all done on VBox. From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sun Aug 9 11:52:39 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:52:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2505.4a7e9c66@forums.frugalware.org> Apols for bad grammer - that should be: Yup - I always test a distro on VBox before installing on a HDD but when it failed on there I did attempt to install it directly onto a HDD but as that failed too I went back to VBox; so the the query too your last post is a yes, it was all done on VBox. From devil505linux at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 12:39:54 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:39:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2506.4a7ea779@forums.frugalware.org> Ok because I heard last version of VB had some troubles with network connection. Some testers reports they were unable to download big packages, as a result, their installation failed :? Maybe try Qemu or Vmware. -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sun Aug 9 13:03:07 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:03:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2507.4a7eacea@forums.frugalware.org> I have version 3.04 - is that the "troubled" one? From devil505linux at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 13:07:39 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:07:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2508.4a7eadfb@forums.frugalware.org> Sorry I don't remember which version :? -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com Sun Aug 9 20:19:13 2009 From: M8R-hn692c at mailinator.com (fw) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:19:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Opinion about Frugalware's installer In-Reply-To: <24f2.4a7a10bf@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <250b.4a7f1320@forums.frugalware.org> DOGGED PERSISTENCE PAYS OFF!! PHEW!!! Well I have finally got it installed and up and running and am writing this post from FW. But I am never going to do that again but once I got the megabit between my teeth I just couldn't let go..... Many thanks for your pointers etc. BTW I finally did with CDs No 1 to 4. From russelldickenson at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 02:17:20 2009 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] GFpm - question about user interface In-Reply-To: <2501.4a7da6eb@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <250c.4a7f670f@forums.frugalware.org> Priyank, Thanks for the information about the icons and their meaning. I agree that an item in the "Help" menu, something perhaps titled "Legend", would be useful. The dialog would be very simple I expect, with the various symbols and their meanings. I still find a column with a single letter a problem, but again, perhaps this could be included in the above dialog? Otherwise, is it possible to have a tooltip appear when the mouse cursor is hovering over a column's header? IroNiQ, Sorry for not replying to your message earlier, but I have been "offline" for a few days. While I guessed at the meaning of the grey and green symbols, I wanted to be sure so that I didn't get the wrong meaning in GFpm's documentation. From russelldickenson at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 02:39:29 2009 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:39:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] How to create a Frugalware live installation on a USB thumb drive/key? In-Reply-To: <20090807224308.GS17280@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <250d.4a7f6c40@forums.frugalware.org> vmiklos, Thanks for your reply. I'll look at the work done for fwlive, also the Live Linux scripts and see where I can go from there. From devil505linux at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 08:07:48 2009 From: devil505linux at gmail.com (Devil505) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:07:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] How to create a Frugalware live installation on a USB thumb drive/key? In-Reply-To: <20090807224308.GS17280@genesis.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <250e.4a7fb932@forums.frugalware.org> vmiklos wrote on Sat, 08 August 2009 00:43 > That's correct, Janny stopped maintaining them, and nobody stepped up to > continue his work so far. I'll ask to Exceed, he has some skills in live cd development. He developed Slax-LFI: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Slax-LFI-33911.shtml -- http://frugalware-fr.org/ From russelldickenson at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 00:42:29 2009 From: russelldickenson at gmail.com (Russell Dickenson) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:42:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Frugalware newsletter issue 50 will be delayed Message-ID: <250f.4a80a253@forums.frugalware.org> Because of personal circumstances, newsletter issue 50 will be delayed by about 1 week. If all goes well, I will publish it on the weekend of 22/23 August 2009. If all doesn't go well then it might be 2010! :p I would like issue 50 to be as best as I can produce, because it's a milestone for Frugalware and myself. From bcjdav at tin.it Thu Aug 13 20:19:48 2009 From: bcjdav at tin.it (gigi) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:19:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] compilng Gambas (svn2234) Message-ID: <2510.4a845942@forums.frugalware.org> hallo! no holidays? 8) it's a very long time that gambas compiles without problems on my pc but.... the last svn (2234) searches for XTest.h without luke. i've found it in xexproto 7.0.2 but not in 7.1.0. what can i do? From bcjdav at tin.it Fri Aug 14 10:57:46 2009 From: bcjdav at tin.it (gigi) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:57:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] compilng Gambas (svn2234) In-Reply-To: <2510.4a845942@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2511.4a852708@forums.frugalware.org> i'm not a programmer i've solved this excluding XTest.h from the compilation... seems to work but i don't know if it is a correct thing... From sanmarco76 at yahoo.it Fri Aug 14 17:32:11 2009 From: sanmarco76 at yahoo.it (Finlay) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:32:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Button Firefox Message-ID: <2512.4a858379@forums.frugalware.org> Hallo, I often use Firefox, a great browser, and sometimes go to Tools - Options - Security - saved password to read and erase the passwords for the sites that I visit. Do you know if there is a way to shorten this path, maybe insert something in the toolbar to speed up this task? Thank you __________________ You have never see http://www.giftideashop.net/ like these? (http://www.geschenk-ideen.biz/silberhochzeit-geschenk.html on german or http://www.regalos-originales.biz/ideas-regalos.html on espanol), http://scuo.la/chimica/1610-hcl-necessario-titolare-soluzione-salamoia-elettrolisi.html From linuxlinux1 at windowslive.com Sat Aug 15 12:24:02 2009 From: linuxlinux1 at windowslive.com (Ian) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] gcc and the GPL license Message-ID: <2513.4a868cc0@forums.frugalware.org> Hi all! I was looking for some paragraphs in the GPL license to get me know what is about the own compiled programs by gcc, but I don't understand it perfectly. So my question is: Is it possible to use other license than GPL when I write a program using gcc? For example I write a chess program and I would like to share it. May I use (for example) a BSD license for it? Cheers From mforce2 at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 00:31:24 2009 From: mforce2 at gmail.com (Marius Cirsta) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:31:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] gcc and the GPL license In-Reply-To: <2513.4a868cc0@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2514.4a87373b@forums.frugalware.org> Sure you can. From what I know all the major BSDs (Free , Open and Net ) use gcc as their compiler. Also Apple uses a modified gcc version and then distributes closed source stuff they compiled with it. The only thing is that if you modify gcc itself you have to provide the changes made under a GPL license. I'm no expert at this but I can tell you it's not an issue. From linuxlinux1 at windowslive.com Sun Aug 16 12:00:38 2009 From: linuxlinux1 at windowslive.com (Ian) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:00:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] gcc and the GPL license In-Reply-To: <2514.4a87373b@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2515.4a87d8c5@forums.frugalware.org> Thank you mcirsta! That's great! :d From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun Aug 16 14:06:59 2009 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:06:59 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] Button Firefox In-Reply-To: <2512.4a858379@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2512.4a858379@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20090816120659.GP5929@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 05:32:11PM +0200, Finlay wrote: > I often use Firefox, a great browser, and sometimes go to Tools - > Options - Security - saved password to read and erase the passwords > for the sites that I visit. You mean Edit -> Preferences? Tools -> Options is only in the Windows version, AFAIK. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vmiklos at frugalware.org Sun Aug 16 14:10:24 2009 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:10:24 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] compilng Gambas (svn2234) In-Reply-To: <2511.4a852708@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2510.4a845942@forums.frugalware.org> <2511.4a852708@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20090816121024.GQ5929@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:57:46AM +0200, gigi wrote: > i'm not a programmer > i've solved this excluding XTest.h from the compilation... > seems to work but i don't know if it is a correct thing... That's fine, in most cases if you remove a header file and you don't get a build error, then you won't get any runtime errors, either. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From bcjdav at tin.it Thu Aug 20 18:38:32 2009 From: bcjdav at tin.it (gigi) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:38:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] oocalc automatic filters Message-ID: <2528.4a8d7c07@forums.frugalware.org> from v 3.1 i'm not able to use the automatic filter :evil: i'm using the nv driver with a geforce4 so i've tried disabling harware acceleration too. happens to me only? From bcjdav at tin.it Sat Aug 22 19:22:34 2009 From: bcjdav at tin.it (gigi) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:22:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] oocalc automatic filters In-Reply-To: <2528.4a8d7c07@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <252f.4a90295a@forums.frugalware.org> nothing to do... it works on new documents but not on my big,fat 5 years old odss :x uffa From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Aug 24 14:56:48 2009 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:56:48 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] oocalc automatic filters In-Reply-To: <252f.4a90295a@forums.frugalware.org> References: <2528.4a8d7c07@forums.frugalware.org> <252f.4a90295a@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20090824125648.GG5929@genesis.frugalware.org> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 07:22:34PM +0200, gigi wrote: > nothing to do... > it works on new documents but not on my big,fat 5 years old odss :x Can you try to shrink the document in question a bit (20K should be fine), remove sensitive infos, and check if the issue you're having is still reproducible? Also, a the steps to reproduce your bug would be nice as well. See http://frugalware.org/docs/bugs Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From flaringly at anime-time.com Mon Aug 24 19:41:04 2009 From: flaringly at anime-time.com (Peteet) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:41:04 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] y, a Message-ID: <4A92D008.9070102@anime-time.com> Ed by the combined labour of all the villagers, and the produce is annually distributed among the households, sometimes according to their supposed wants, sometimes according to rules which give to particular persons a fixed share of the usufruct. All these practices are traced by the jurists of the East of Europe to a principle which is asserted to be found in the earliest Sclavonian laws, the principle that the property of families cannot be divided for a perpetuity. The great interest of these phenomena in an inquiry like the present arises from the light they throw on the development of distinct proprietary rights _inside_ the groups by which property seems to have been originally held. We have the strongest reason for thinking that property once belonged not to individuals nor even to isolated families, but to larger societies composed on the patriarchal model; but the mode of transition from ancient to modern ownerships, obscure at best, would have been infinitely obscurer if several distinguishable forms of Village Communities had not been discovered and examined. It is worth while to attend to the varieties of internal arrangement within the patriarchal groups which are, or were till recently, observable among races of Indo-European blood. The chiefs of the ruder Highland clans used, it is said, to dole out food to the heads of the households under their jurisdiction at the very shortest intervals, and sometimes day by day. A periodical distribution is also made to the Sclavonian villagers of the Austrian and Turkish provinces by the elders of their body, but then it is a distribution once for all of the total produce of the year. In the Russian villages, however, the substance of the property ceases to be looked upon as indivisible, and separate proprietary claim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ledge.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8925 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bcjdav at tin.it Tue Aug 25 20:45:06 2009 From: bcjdav at tin.it (gigi) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:45:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Frugalware-forums] oocalc automatic filters In-Reply-To: <2528.4a8d7c07@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <2532.4a943130@forums.frugalware.org> i've seen it works well on my notebook where there is a more fresh installation... oocalc doesn't shows any error, simply autolters doesn' work. my sheets are very big with lot of conditional formatting; too much time to debug. so my i'll wait to buy a new disk to restart from 0. sorry for the post, sometimes i feel panic because i need my data for work! thanks anyway :p From raisins at pco-lelystad.nl Wed Aug 26 22:50:41 2009 From: raisins at pco-lelystad.nl (Goodermote) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:50:41 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] ld strewn all with rubies. She wor Message-ID: <4A959F14.5020605@pco-lelystad.nl> , I say, beside the cradle, and kittles him with her nimble fingers, and digs him i' th' ribs after a fashion that would sure 'a' run me crazy (though it hath ne'er yet been proven what a young babe cannot endure at the hands o' women), and punches and pokes and worries him, for all th' world like a kitten worrying a flower. And he, lying on his back, kicks with both feet at her face, and winds all his hands in her long hair, and laughs, and bubbles, and makes merry, after the fashion o' a spring stream among many stones. And by-and-by a change falls o'er her, and she waxes very solemn, and sits down on th' floor by th' edge o' th' cradle, wi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From vmiklos at frugalware.org Mon Aug 31 12:39:03 2009 From: vmiklos at frugalware.org (Miklos Vajna) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:03 +0200 Subject: [Frugalware-forums] X server intel acceleration In-Reply-To: <253b.4a982eef@forums.frugalware.org> References: <253b.4a982eef@forums.frugalware.org> Message-ID: <20090831103903.GR4770@genesis.frugalware.org> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 09:24:32PM +0200, Marius Cirsta wrote: > I have a PC with an i810 chipset, running Frugalware 1.1 RC2 and > trying to enable some form of acceleration. > Right now it's using XAA and I'd like to enable UXA or at least EXA. > From what I now in the 2.8 Intel driver only UXA is available but I > don't know if UXA is available in Frugalware. > Can anyone clarify this ? What kind of acceleration is the best you > cand get for an Intel GPU in Frugalware 1.1 ? $ zgrep DRM_I915_KMS /proc/config.gz # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set So UXA is not available, mainly because the intel driver 2.8 documentation says that various KMS-related problems will be fixed only in the not-yet-released kernel 2.6.31, while we ship Frugalware 1.1 with the released 2.6.30. Regarding EXA, are you sure you aren't using it? I have the following line in my Xorg log: (==) intel(0): Using EXA for acceleration -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: