21:11 -!- GekAapie [n=mich@unaffiliated/gekaapie] has joined #go-oo 21:14 < GekAapie> anyone here using arch? 21:23 <@tml_> hmm, no "essential" library APIs that GIMP plug-ins use involve FILE pointers or file descriptors, do they? 21:23 <@tml_> oops, wrong channel 21:23 <@hub> tml_: :-) 21:37 -!- dtardon [n=dtardon@rb5ah213.net.upc.cz] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:46 < GekAapie> so uhhmm how does this work? you install openoffice and then what? 21:50 <@tml_> GekAapie: what "this"? 21:52 < GekAapie> go-oo 21:52 <@tml_> GekAapie: what Linux distro are you using? 21:52 < GekAapie> arch 21:53 <@tml_> hmm, is that the same as "Ark Linux"? 21:53 < vmiklos> nope, different 21:54 < vmiklos> ar{ch,k}linux.org :) 21:54 < GekAapie> http://www.archlinux.org/ 21:54 <@tml_> GekAapie: ok, well then you can try the generic Linux build of go-oo from http://go-oo.org/download/ . If that doesn't work, then you have to build it yourself. 21:56 < GekAapie> thats rpm ;o 21:56 <@tml_> so use whatever "alien" style tool you have to unpack and install what's inside the rpm? 21:57 <@tml_> presumably you use an exotic Linux distro because you like doing stuff like that? 21:58 <@tml_> or, if arch uses .deb packages, you could try to use Debian's openoffice packages (which are built from ooo-build, i.e. go-oo) 21:59 <@tml_> although I guess that if arch isn't simply a "clone" that follows Debian closely, it is highly unlikely that will work 21:59 <@tml_> and actually I am the wrong person to give advice to you;) 22:00 < GekAapie> normally i just get stuff of the repo or AUR :p of the aur you just get the stuff on there into a dir and run makepkg :p and it gives you a *.pkg.tar.gz file which you install using pacman -U pkgfile 22:02 < GekAapie> tml_ how are you the wrong person? 22:03 -!- janneke [n=janneke@88.159.206.46] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:04 <@tml_> GekAapie: because I happen to be mostly a Windows person, at least from an OOo perspective... 22:04 < _rene_> GekAapie: probably because he neither uses Debian nor arch, not even Linux but Windows :-) 22:04 < GekAapie> -.- 22:06 <@tml_> GekAapie: unless you want to become the Arch maintainer of a go-oo package, your best bet is to ask the current Arch maintainer of OOo to switch to using ooo-build instead of vanilla. chances are, though, that he will give you some (possibly misguided) political and/or philisophical reasons why that is not going to happen 22:07 < GekAapie> vanilla? 22:07 <@tml_> GekAapie: that said, I assume you have verified that the Arch build of OOo is using the vanilla upstream sources, not ooo-build (go-oo)? 22:07 <@tml_> "vanilla" is a technical term that means "plain" 22:07 <@tml_> i.e., vanilla OOo is the upstream OOo from www.openoffice.org, also known as "Sun" with its "community" 22:08 < _rene_> tml_: looks like it 22:08 < _rene_> tml_: (and arch seems rpm-based anyway) 22:08 < _rene_> tml_: looking at http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/openoffice-base-beta/repos/extra-x86_64/ it seems they cherry-pick stuff from us, though 22:09 < GekAapie> :o 22:09 < GekAapie> but its beta -.- 22:09 < _rene_> yep, looking at PKGBUILD; they definitely use vanilla 22:09 < _rene_> GekAapie: err? that has nothing to do with beta or not? 22:10 < _rene_> GekAapie: go-oo.org using distros have already beta packaages, ther, too 22:11 -!- mikesic_ [n=mikesic@c-98-196-242-160.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #go-oo 22:11 < _rene_> (e.g. http://packages.debian.org/openoffice.org-core, I am waiting a bit still for updating the package) 22:12 < GekAapie> im confused xD 22:13 < _rene_> GekAapie: what tml_ and me were saying is just that Arch seems to use vanilla OOO, not the go-oo.org version 22:13 < GekAapie> yea i got that part 22:13 < GekAapie> but i dont get how to install the rpm 22:13 < GekAapie> never done that before 22:14 <@tml_> GekAapie: and we wanted to resolve that because it often happens that people (for instance Ubuntu users) don't know they are using the go-oo.org version;) but in your case, that is not the case 22:15 < GekAapie> normal ooo is bloated and loads slow so i wanted to get go-oo :/ 22:15 <@tml_> GekAapie: try asking in some Arch IRC channel how to install rpms? 22:15 <@tml_> GekAapie: despite our valiant efforts, I don't think you will find *that* large a difference in bloatness and speed 22:16 < _rene_> tml_: I changed our Homepage: http://www.openoffice.org to Homepage: http://www.go-oo.org for the 3.0 packages now so I hope in future people will see that and not ask... 22:16 < GekAapie> if it's not there, grab rmpextract, extract the rpm, and then wrap it in a arch pkg || GekAapie: man PKGBUILD 22:17 < _rene_> so he said what you have to do 22:17 < _rene_> in any case, for how to install packages on arch (and PKBUILD is arch-specific), ask there 22:17 < GekAapie> i dont see any .install file in the rpm 22:17 < GekAapie> :/ 22:18 <@tml_> GekAapie: you should understand that an .install file is not something we ever know what it is... (or do we?) 22:18 <@tml_> s/ever/even 22:19 < GekAapie> i never done such a thing before i would not know :p 22:20 <@tml_> GekAapie: what is an .install file? is that something that Arch packages contain? 22:22 < _rene_> GekAapie: again, we don't use archlinux. ask some archlinux guys if you don't understand what MrElendig tells you 22:22 < _rene_> GekAapie: really.